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welcome and unraveling the secrets where

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we explore the connecting links between

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the delicious feeds of a group of

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secrets inside the outlaws we're

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creating a tightly controlled rural

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society with them as bosses in your eye

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as slaves to their system up your way

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known as the new world research

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indicates that most of the unexpected

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our skies up from somewhere on or inside

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our planet displayed your research of

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the hard-working subterranean theories

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in the nineteen eighties nineties which

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in turn led through realization that the

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answers we seek are the control the

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number of the latest groups and secret

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societies that we call collectively the

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controllers use a quick look at recent

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world events should convince anyone that

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the controller's plan is working very

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it is these things for and this radio

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show join us as we work towards

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have you always felt different are you

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concerned about the air changes going on

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all around us and increasing on a daily

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basis earthquakes floods wildfire

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superstorms global warming do you feel a

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longing for a place you have always

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secretly dreamed about but which doesn't

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seem to exist in our chaotic world do

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you have a past life memories and dreams

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or perhaps perhaps missing time and

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maybe even wonder if you have been

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contacted or influenced by beings from a

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higher realm do you find yourself gazing

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up at the stars and feeling along inge

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so intense as to be heartbreaking well

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join us tonight this is ladies night out

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on the unraveling the secrets and i am

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your co-host timothy beckley and over

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the great Hudson River we have a carla

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anderson who is very ballad she's very

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balanced today instead of being

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unbalanced and she apologizes for her

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discretion from from previous shows and

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a court etiquette and of course down in

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miami for the son of shine and there's

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always all kinds of activities in a

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million places to eat and dance and

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watch the pretty girls yes angel

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otherwise known as the jackal howdy how

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everybody doing tonight well alright I

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couldn't tell you my experiences at the

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at the doctor this week but I have more

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important oh I I heard part of that

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experience on a kid that if you're not

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half dead already they'll kill you

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completely yeah that's what that's for

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the audience mr. Thomas brilliant well

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we can do a whole show on that some

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other time anyway our first guest

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tonight all the way out there in st.

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ansgar Iowa is my old bud Diane tessman

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now Diana Testament and I go way back

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way back I can way back I mean like like

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babies and pacifiers way back baby's

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pacifier before probably before we were

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even born whoa way back but I met Diane

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that would she was living in Florida and

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she moved around the world swiftly she

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was in Ireland she lived in Joshua Tree

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California for a while right near the

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famous Death Valley and giant rock where

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George Van Tassel built is rejuvenation

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machine the integratron and today she's

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living in Iowa she's back where she was

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born and raised on the same in the same

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rural area that she had her first UFO

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experience I guess maybe abduction

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experience we should call it yeah in

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powder I prefer encounter but yes

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affectionately all right well let's go

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back Diane let's start when we first met

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you were in Florida at the time and I

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think you had written me a letter

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something about some weird experiences

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that were taking place in your house

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that were tied in with a a disaster that

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took place down there well yeah it

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turned out they were tied in with the

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skyway bridge well DeBarge hit one span

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of the Skyway between st. Petersburg and

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bradenton florida and i had a whole

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series of weird paranormal type of

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things for about a year before that

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happened and it started working with the

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Mothman in fact I saw a mount Mothman go

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over it worked in with the Silver Bridge

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disaster that John keel wrote about and

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I wrote to you I was teaching school

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respective I was a respectable scroll

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feature until you met me when I met you

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and yeah I might I had beeps in the

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house and several UFO sightings so it

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might not have been entirely paranormal

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it was also UFO and of course maybe

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there is a connection there and maybe

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there isn't what kind of UFO sightings

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did you have well strangely enough my

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daughter who was about nine at the time

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keeps talking about a UFO that was

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revolving and fairly

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that we watch from our yard and our

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house was about a block from where we

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could see the skyway bridge so we were

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actually quite close to where it finally

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got crashed into but these things

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happened before there before the

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accident and I do not remember that at

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all and she says yes I was right there

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and it was very it was a revolving type

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of spinning type of UFO a saucer but

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then we did watch two large herbs white

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orbs that had almost a translucent

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quality over Tampa Bay from the park

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that was overlooking the skyway bridge

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and we watched him along well we watched

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one of them for hours i was looking at

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one and kind of trying to communicate

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with it is this it disappeared all of a

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sudden why'd you say karna how big was

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it giant these were large orbs I would

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say maybe the size of Earth from the

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moon you know in those pay a large um

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you know like a planet might be in a

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science fiction um and not huge but a

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good size may one like the moon

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appointed me more when you looked up and

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look like the size of the moon yeah but

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they were much lower but they were

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giving like the size of a football field

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or like a stadium no but I don't they I

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don't know anyone was around and then

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that was round like a look at yes and I

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have their their height was not van high

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so they must so they were sincerely yeah

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but that's huge if you look one to the

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other yeah and they weren't water

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balloons they never moved at all but one

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blinked out I was trying telepathic

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communication and it got rude and just

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blinked out when I so but the one stayed

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for hours and finally I had to teach

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school in the morning I finally gave up

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and went home and I had taken my

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daughter home a couple hours before that

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my daughter and the dog but she doesn't

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remember that at all so I don't remember

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one thing and she doesn't remember the

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other and that all happened within a

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year or so

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of the skyway does that you know that

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seems to be it that seems to be a

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frequent occurrence with with people

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memory and not remembering incidents now

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I know that I went to the town of Pine

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Bush New York several times right i know

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i went with ellen crystal and Harry

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a-levels and Harry work for omni a

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magazine before he decided he didn't

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want to live in New York anymore and

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move to Miami in fact whenever I talk

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about synchronicities and all of that

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whenever he did not have a phone he

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didn't want anybody to bother him but

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whenever I went down to Miami and this

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was on an intellect may be once or twice

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a year I would always run into Harry on

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the first day standing in front of

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burger king or the post office he had a

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post office box there but anyway Ellen

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crystal had all these signs up on Pine

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Bush in in all and I guess I went there

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a couple of times because my name is

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etched on the bathroom wall in the

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barbershop I go that's not yet yeah well

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I know that sounds peculiar but the guy

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who runs the barbershop it's just like

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it's kind of like balance of Carla he

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has UFO photos around the place and I

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guess every UFO researcher who came in

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he put their name on the plaque and the

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best we could do is have it hanging on

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the bathroom wall hi in his barbershop I

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think he's still there cuz i saw money

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on the you know the barber shop on the

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internet and up but supposedly i went up

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to i don't remember being in his

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barbershop to be honest but that doesn't

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really mean anything supposedly III ran

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into somebody a couple years ago they

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said oh we went to pine bush with you

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and you started channeling you know so

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the beings that were in these lights

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that were coming uh you know overhead or

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something and and i said to this person

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while I knew they'd this they're not the

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type of person to lie but I think I

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would remember that that was not doing

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my alcohol period so I I go I die I just

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don't remember it I you know I mean it

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could have happened but I don't remember

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channeling ashtar at least on that

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occasion I have to I've put it out of my

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mind but now the experiences that you

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had in your house wasn't this the fire

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alarm or the was going off and your

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toaster was popping up or something it

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wasn't the toaster that I remember but

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the fire alarm okay

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finally came to the morning plan the

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bridge disaster happen not that we knew

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it was going to and I was getting ready

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to go to school it was seven thirty five

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in the morning and the smoke alarm

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started almost a Morse code type of

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thing and I I saw told the batteries

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couldn't be low i just put them in and

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and it wasn't an alarm and we soon heard

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of a disaster when we had the news on

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happened at seven thirty five is when an

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entire Greyhound bus went off that span

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there were over 30 people killed it was

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way back in the late 70s so not too many

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people remember but in several cars and

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it was exactly at the time that the

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smoke alarm but nobody knew more is cold

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in my house my parents would made didn't

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know and gianna was doesn't know it

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either my daughter um so but I had been

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having beats in the house just like the

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wall with beep and the lamp would beep

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and I even took a cassette tape recorder

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on batteries way out like to the edge of

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the yard and it beeped at me so I had a

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case of the biebs for about a year

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culminated by the Morse code on the

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smoke alarm and it was exactly the

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moment that that happened and we live

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very close to it actually what would you

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saw the Mothman go over it what what

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does that what was that like describe

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that when I saw fide did you say you saw

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the Mothman I was a mom it yes I did

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this was again getting up to the time

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that the bridge thing happened I was out

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you know looking for UFOs and all I'd

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well I was a field investigator actually

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i would say state section director for

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MUFON for a fairly brief time that that

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makes you very important yeah right

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don't ask me about new anyway I was

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always a looking and something covered

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the sky just in an old pake black it

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that was just switching over and it was

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outlined in sort of a blood-red a dark

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red and it was too big to have been a

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bird I mean there are you know water

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birds in Florida but

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I I don't know it was like a guy with a

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cape that pushed over it was fairly low

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and it was fairly large maybe the size

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of a piper airplane but no noise a Piper

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Cub but no noise and so I call it

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Mothman I didn't meet him but um

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something went over that was kind of

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very strange well I know dyad you and I

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had a kind of a mystifying experience we

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were having a brunch was it in la jolla

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or san diego yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

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yeah we look we looked out over the

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veranda over the ocean in here came this

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I don't know what would you call a drone

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or something like that but decades

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before there was a sergeant decades

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decades yes I don't know uh-huh but yeah

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and that was our were citing it together

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yeah yeah but it is a phenomenon I

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cannot look into it with various people

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that sometimes they remember a little

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bit but the person they were with

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remembers quite exciting and and then

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vice versa I had that happen with a

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friend to out in California along black

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mountain road before it was all built up

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I saw a big light with string of pearls

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like shuttlecraft or something around it

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and my friend who was all into this kind

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of thing barely remembers it um so

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there's another one and I never I

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thought maybe it was a refueling from

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miramar air or navy base but it doesn't

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line up with what that looks like I've

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looked into that well you know I guess

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that is kind of a heavy area as far as

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the military traffic goes oh yeah also

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as far as UFO traffic wet you know

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that's a you let you live probably what

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within 10 miles of giant rock airport I

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did it and judge between this attraction

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highway yeah um yeah the Joshua tree

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area had a sighting again with the same

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friend and and her friend and my

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daughter out in the desert i wrote about

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that in your Mojave oh yes

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the Haunted Mojave yes yes well you know

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that that that that place has been a

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gold mine of UFO sightings since the

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late 1940s in fact i was on the History

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Channel a couple of weeks ago and there

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was an episode it's called the mysteries

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in the national parks and and they

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filmed in Joshua Tree even though I was

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in Toronto I never got roster tree but I

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have been their course and they had

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quite a number of people they had George

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Van Tassel's grandson and they had his

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son in law a law a Daniel Boone who

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always told the story about how one

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night he had to go use the outhouse

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because they are no plumbing or anything

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there and he went out without his

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coveralls on because he knew he wouldn't

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run into anything and lo and behold he

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runs into a land at flying saucer and

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he's very embarrassed when they asked

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him to come aboard but if they said

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basically I didn't matter you know they

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were used to little nudity and so I

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guess he climbed on board you know

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without as well with well with little

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close out which is certainly it's not

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the first experience like that because I

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remember on the planet laniel owes woody

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derenberger claim that the they had like

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nudity I way every call it nude nudist

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it was a nudist the planet I mean nobody

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nobody got dressed up unless they were

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coming to Earth I suppose you know then

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you got it he got it then you gotta put

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on your fineries you know I wrote this

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big deep article the other day for UFO

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casebook on the possibility of future

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humans being some of the UFO occupants

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and it was like a really deep article I

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worked on this it's one of my pet ideas

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for a long time and the only response I

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got was some guy said world were they

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naked or did they come close I could

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just strangle him but luckily he wasn't

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any sickness out on line 1 1 million 1

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million years in the future and we've

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lost our underwear how about that that

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talk about advancements right okay well

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let's get back to the serious events

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here you you had some strange markings i

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remember you you showing me how did that

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all come about

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well the strangest thing I don't think I

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had fully understood back in our heyday

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Tim um I had I knew I had a scar on the

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front side of my face between my nose

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and my lip just answer linus an

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interpreter yes of course yeah and you

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saw that well I thought that was the

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scar and a couple years ago I got to

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realizing the membrane that is inside

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that same area is gone on me just lon I

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checked with my daughter and I know most

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people have it it's just that skin that

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kind of connects your your lip to your

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above your your front teeth does

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everybody have it well anyway I don't

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anything right now I don't mean how did

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you find that you didn't have it that

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way well I know you don't know what you

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don't have I mean I well I figured out

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that there's there's I find out you

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didn't have it whether it's kind of

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bumpy scar tissue on the inside and it's

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just simply I checked other people that

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my daughter and I'm friend and I

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realized it is a little membrane there

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or a fair-sized membrane actually as

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membranes go anyway I just it's removed

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up right up to under my nose I there's

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nothing except some bumpy skin um and I

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I asked my parents about the scar I

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didn't can't quite both my parents are

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dead and I hadn't cried discovered this

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actual membrane saying it took me years

403
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to figure it out but I said did I have

404
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any kind of birthday little birth defect

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that was fixed or did they take me to

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the doctor the dentist um any and they

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both said no and they were very doting

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parents and my mother would have been

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happy to say yes because she didn't like

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my UFO interest and but they both said

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no and so anyway I have you know there

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might be a reasonable explanation to it

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but there really isn't so I guess you

414
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could mouth tissue is supposed to be

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some of the best to clone so there might

416
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be some more of me but that's just you

417
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know that

418
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sounds amazing that that wouldn't be a

419
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bad thing Cantwell well I so Diane you

420
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eventually ended up in the University of

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Wyoming with dr. sprinkle now did you go

422
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there because of the the scar or had you

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had a memory of being abducted or

424
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examined or something well I I went

425
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because I was so fascinated with UFOs

426
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was a field investigator tried to be

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very objective but I knew that there was

428
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a personal reason behind that and I

429
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didn't know what it was I suspected

430
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something because you read about

431
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abductees and whatnot and so that was

432
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just the general wanting to know the the

433
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truth trying to go back into it and dr.

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sprenkle is still a good friend he

435
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wasn't a friend at the time it was an

436
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objective he did he gave me

437
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psychological tests and I did quite well

438
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on them i see not to be crazy and in

439
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fact i'm a person that handles reality

440
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all the time I mean I'm very functional

441
00:20:22,580 --> 00:20:20,080
so anyway he when he regressed me it

442
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came very clearly and fairly quickly

443
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that I had been taken the board the the

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details are in the transformation the

445
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book that you publish Tim oh yes um and

446
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there's a few years back few years ago

447
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but all of dr. sprinkles notes are there

448
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about what I go there there's a lot of

449
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detail excellent excellent book that's

450
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gone through quite a number of additions

451
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and a it's your it's available now on

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amazon from you i mean i guess yeah I'm

453
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abanico kindle and i also have copies

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myself if anybody wanted a favor ruin

455
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the book for me if you tell me what

456
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happened though because I like books

457
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anyway so so what happened well um I

458
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there was one I saw beings around that

459
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were both that were small humans almost

460
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like the wharf humans and not the

461
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classic ETS with the the goggle eyes but

462
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then also sort of insect right beans

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but I don't know fear and I've looked

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into the fact other people feel that

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perhaps they can control fear ennis if

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they want to it seems some people are so

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traumatized by abductions but I'm scared

468
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of thanks anyway though I was just be

469
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freaked out by a giant insects oh yeah

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where I was called was four years old

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and so I was a very competent for a year

472
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old i was you know smart and and really

473
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had it together for fedora brothers

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actually i was actually more open to

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nature when i was four though you know i

476
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mean i develop yeah here for bugs you

477
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know otherwise you know who yeah I I was

478
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very open to nature and very shy and

479
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quiet and maybe I was strange from the

480
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beginning but um uh I was four and and I

481
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there was this one being a man who was

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sort of my guide and he had amber eyes

483
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he was not human you don't see a human

484
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with the coloring or quite the facial

485
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features he had but he was I could

486
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appreciate you know that he was nice

487
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enough looking he wasn't so strange

488
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course if there are if they are advanced

489
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energy beings maybe that was a

490
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conventional ization for my benefit but

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he he had tawny colored hair kind of it

492
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was a very golden feeling because his

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skin was fairly dark alley colored amber

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eyes that were almost translucent and

495
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very almost reticent to talk to me we

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sat on a bench quite a distance from

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each other you know people have asked me

498
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especially these days what do you think

499
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it was some memory of being molested and

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you just no absolutely not you know that

501
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isn't the i never had that in my in my

502
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background at all and this was nothing

503
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like that it was something that turned

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out to be so influential and beautiful

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in my life and and eye-opening and

506
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vistas that I never would have known

507
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otherwise and then it I'm so

508
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tender-hearted toward animals and

509
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frankly you know my level of

510
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consciousness is is where I'm proud of

511
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it I know I can go further and that

512
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humanity has to to raise his

513
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consciousness to and I'm a I'm a human I

514
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don't pretend to you know that I just

515
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landed from Venus but it's been such an

516
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influence in my life that those I had

517
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two encounters that I remember the other

518
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one was in a cabin in Canada we were up

519
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there on vacation and i don't mean I've

520
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never gone into details on that I'm in

521
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hypnosis but I know that the same being

522
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walked in the door of the cabin I was in

523
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the cabin by myself it shall would you

524
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then for because it was the same year in

525
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nineteen i had to date myself 1952 and

526
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there were UFO sightings locally that

527
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same year i have found out recently so

528
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um I don't know it's all a big puzzle

529
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:36,790
that I've been putting together slowly

530
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:41,050
for years and Ashley since the Tim and I

531
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knew each other well we don't know each

532
00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:46,840
other so well but since our heyday I've

533
00:24:52,260 --> 00:24:48,910
put a lot of more of the puzzle together

534
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actually I've kind of gone in Word and

535
00:24:57,810 --> 00:24:54,490
figured it out through research and

536
00:25:00,720 --> 00:24:57,820
articles that I've written and I don't

537
00:25:03,030 --> 00:25:00,730
know it just kind of keeps it all make

538
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:03,040
sense I mean it's like a plan to it's

539
00:25:09,150 --> 00:25:06,610
not a random or crazy thing it's um

540
00:25:12,330 --> 00:25:09,160
there's clues there's part I don't know

541
00:25:14,850 --> 00:25:12,340
but it's all about really and yet it's

542
00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:14,860
something about human consciousness I

543
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:17,220
really think it's more about our

544
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:20,530
perception and the evolution than it is

545
00:25:28,740 --> 00:25:23,200
about any one race of ETS or time

546
00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:28,750
travelers or it's something intended for

547
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:33,370
us humans to help us now it's what when

548
00:25:37,950 --> 00:25:35,370
you saw when you when you met this

549
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:37,960
individual who you have identified in

550
00:25:43,230 --> 00:25:39,730
your books and newsletters of Kaiba's

551
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:43,240
correct all right yeah corrected my man

552
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:45,730
taken a drink of water yeah did and we

553
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:46,810
you're not allowed to do that you're

554
00:25:55,980 --> 00:25:54,690
hey ok so now did he speak to you

555
00:25:58,500 --> 00:25:55,990
verbally like we're having a

556
00:26:00,900 --> 00:25:58,510
conversation or was it telepathic

557
00:26:03,150 --> 00:26:00,910
because in a lot of these a contact

558
00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:03,160
experiences people say that it's a you

559
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:06,700
know as a mind to mind thing I suspect

560
00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:08,890
it was telepathic but hey I was four I

561
00:26:14,910 --> 00:26:12,790
don't know no i don't i don't think it

562
00:26:20,820 --> 00:26:14,920
was verbal i think it was telepathic and

563
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:20,830
i can't tell you the details of body

564
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:23,530
said i don't have the i think that they

565
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:26,290
show up in my channeling throughout the

566
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:28,690
because i have channeled him now for

567
00:26:36,180 --> 00:26:34,090
over 30 years I Tim you help me start

568
00:26:39,030 --> 00:26:36,190
the star network Hartline started in

569
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:39,040
nineteen eighty-three in San Diego right

570
00:26:47,340 --> 00:26:41,650
san diego wanna know garage sale

571
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,350
typewriter nobody yes and then the

572
00:26:51,780 --> 00:26:49,360
change times quarterly newsletter

573
00:26:54,450 --> 00:26:51,790
started in nineteen ninety in amsterdam

574
00:26:57,770 --> 00:26:54,460
when i had the right away to europe and

575
00:27:02,670 --> 00:26:57,780
I've channeled I probably channeled

576
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:02,680
enough paper to reach the moon I've

577
00:27:09,390 --> 00:27:05,890
written an awful lot and I've never

578
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:09,400
really come to huge prominence because I

579
00:27:16,170 --> 00:27:13,090
tend to be kind of stubborn and and just

580
00:27:18,390 --> 00:27:16,180
under then I I don't really have a huge

581
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:18,400
amount of money for glossy stuff and to

582
00:27:24,450 --> 00:27:21,310
launch myself is some big personality

583
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:24,460
but I have kind of kept it the ways I'm

584
00:27:30,030 --> 00:27:27,490
comfortable with it which is just

585
00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:30,040
plugging along and I meant so many

586
00:27:34,950 --> 00:27:33,100
wonderful I call them star people Franz

587
00:27:37,530 --> 00:27:34,960
that have been one lady's been with me

588
00:27:41,910 --> 00:27:37,540
since the first issue of the hardline

589
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:41,920
may 1983 she's now 90 years old and she

590
00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:45,340
she was 60 I guess when she when she

591
00:27:52,650 --> 00:27:49,980
started and and you okay so you moved to

592
00:27:56,610 --> 00:27:52,660
Holland the Netherlands did you have any

593
00:28:00,420 --> 00:27:56,620
experiences while you were there no but

594
00:28:02,250 --> 00:28:00,430
I was very troubled with things like Oh

595
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:02,260
getting my stuff out of

596
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:06,730
of costumes and then the government

597
00:28:11,610 --> 00:28:08,890
decided we couldn't stay there when they

598
00:28:16,020 --> 00:28:11,620
had said we could and I was just kind of

599
00:28:18,030 --> 00:28:16,030
besieged with practical problems so I

600
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:18,040
went to Ireland after six months and

601
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:21,730
amsterdam and there I mother Ireland

602
00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:26,770
talked to me and I had messages from the

603
00:28:33,030 --> 00:28:29,830
Tour de donon that were the ancient

604
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:33,040
people there recently some other people

605
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:35,890
have been mentioning the two of did on

606
00:28:41,340 --> 00:28:39,310
and I noticed it looks like tarafa be

607
00:28:43,610 --> 00:28:41,350
done on if you're not ringing but it's

608
00:28:47,610 --> 00:28:43,620
hot girls receive these messages I'm

609
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:47,620
channeling and they just branded my head

610
00:28:53,700 --> 00:28:49,440
its I've never had a voice in my head

611
00:28:57,930 --> 00:28:53,710
it's just they identified themselves as

612
00:28:59,610 --> 00:28:57,940
that and you know I tried to get away

613
00:29:01,680 --> 00:28:59,620
from the channeling a little and like

614
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:01,690
these science speculation articles

615
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:05,440
because but I still hold on to the

616
00:29:10,410 --> 00:29:08,050
channeling to with my newsletters but I

617
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:10,420
really believe that on up the road of

618
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:13,510
our evolution spirit and science need to

619
00:29:17,730 --> 00:29:16,450
come together because we tend to say the

620
00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:17,740
scientists will say well that's a

621
00:29:23,010 --> 00:29:21,790
rainbow its water going in a prism you

622
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:23,020
know through a raindrop from the

623
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:24,970
sunshine and then the spiritual people

624
00:29:30,660 --> 00:29:27,970
say no it's a symbol of hope and and

625
00:29:33,170 --> 00:29:30,670
maybe that rainbow really changed their

626
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:33,180
lives they give them hope so it has

627
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:36,610
concrete consequences spirit counts I

628
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:38,730
mean scientists tend to just discount

629
00:29:45,540 --> 00:29:42,730
anything spiritual um but you can't

630
00:29:47,370 --> 00:29:45,550
really count out science either so it

631
00:29:49,290 --> 00:29:47,380
shouldn't be in contradiction and I

632
00:29:52,890 --> 00:29:49,300
think you know we've got that bridge in

633
00:29:56,430 --> 00:29:52,900
our brain that isn't fully activated I

634
00:29:59,070 --> 00:29:56,440
should know its name but I forgotten but

635
00:30:02,280 --> 00:29:59,080
I think maybe when we're when we evolve

636
00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:02,290
maybe we'll be fully activated and we

637
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:05,680
won't contradict there's no need for for

638
00:30:12,540 --> 00:30:08,050
contradicting each other all the time

639
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:12,550
with science religion spirit we just

640
00:30:18,930 --> 00:30:16,090
need to to see things in a larger

641
00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:18,940
a more than two sum of the parts the

642
00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:20,440
whole is more than the sum of those

643
00:30:26,580 --> 00:30:23,500
parts if that makes any sense yeah well

644
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:26,590
I think III remember Diane when you were

645
00:30:31,169 --> 00:30:28,960
living in the countryside there in

646
00:30:33,390 --> 00:30:31,179
kilkenny that used to send me

647
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:33,400
photographs beautiful photographs but

648
00:30:38,220 --> 00:30:35,679
also too I weren't you studying the

649
00:30:40,049 --> 00:30:38,230
celtic shamanism I mean I remember

650
00:30:45,060 --> 00:30:40,059
seeing all these what would you call

651
00:30:47,130 --> 00:30:45,070
them markers or or tombs only standing

652
00:30:49,110 --> 00:30:47,140
stones Harley well that's right yeah yes

653
00:30:52,019 --> 00:30:49,120
that's right standings updated back to

654
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:52,029
pagan days but the church took them over

655
00:30:57,539 --> 00:30:55,210
another Church surely wealth and many

656
00:31:02,190 --> 00:30:57,549
churches especially in Ireland were

657
00:31:04,649 --> 00:31:02,200
built on on old pagan sites and yeah I

658
00:31:09,299 --> 00:31:04,659
in Ireland I kind of embraced being a

659
00:31:13,049 --> 00:31:09,309
proud pagan I I think nature is God and

660
00:31:16,139 --> 00:31:13,059
mother Ireland man what a a part of the

661
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:16,149
the female god she just especially in

662
00:31:21,690 --> 00:31:17,919
the 90s I don't know if it's gotten a

663
00:31:23,399 --> 00:31:21,700
little more security minded or something

664
00:31:26,789 --> 00:31:23,409
but in the nineties you could go visit

665
00:31:29,730 --> 00:31:26,799
Oh go up old stairways that led nowhere

666
00:31:32,610 --> 00:31:29,740
and crumbling old castles and nobody

667
00:31:35,549 --> 00:31:32,620
stopped you and they probably now have

668
00:31:38,669 --> 00:31:35,559
tightened up for fear of lawsuits but

669
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:38,679
you could lay down on a dolmen I had a

670
00:31:43,289 --> 00:31:41,440
visitor who laid down on a dolmen

671
00:31:45,419 --> 00:31:43,299
thinking he would get great psychic

672
00:31:48,659 --> 00:31:45,429
input and he got such a headache said he

673
00:31:51,389 --> 00:31:48,669
had to go back home to the state's early

674
00:31:54,750 --> 00:31:51,399
he really apparently you shouldn't take

675
00:31:56,970 --> 00:31:54,760
a nap on the top of a Leah of a dolmen I

676
00:31:59,159 --> 00:31:56,980
would you don't you don't have to go to

677
00:32:01,260 --> 00:31:59,169
Ireland to find the dolmen in fact I

678
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:01,270
must have told you the story of fact I

679
00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:02,890
was with your daughter we went to I

680
00:32:09,419 --> 00:32:05,020
think like superior on just a little

681
00:32:12,899 --> 00:32:09,429
outing 111 weekend and it was raining

682
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:12,909
out so they had a tour that the the park

683
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:15,010
ranger that would come to the hotel and

684
00:32:19,019 --> 00:32:16,690
take people on a walking tour you know

685
00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:19,029
along the trails and stuff but it was

686
00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:20,950
raining out and frankly though he wanted

687
00:32:24,210 --> 00:32:22,270
to go I don't think it mattered what it

688
00:32:25,950 --> 00:32:24,220
was raining mean I so I stopped to talk

689
00:32:27,810 --> 00:32:25,960
to the the nice lady who was a park

690
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:27,820
ranger and you know there had been

691
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:29,890
reports of course of UFOs over Lake

692
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:32,170
you know superior in all and I asked her

693
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:33,610
I said has there been any recent reports

694
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:35,230
UFOs you know anything about it she said

695
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:38,290
oh that's not my my particular you know

696
00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:41,170
area of expertise but come back to the

697
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:43,030
Ranger you know the headquarters with me

698
00:32:48,750 --> 00:32:45,850
you know introduce you to Ranger Dan or

699
00:32:50,250 --> 00:32:48,760
Rick or whatever his name was and we

700
00:32:52,380 --> 00:32:50,260
went back there and I asked them I i

701
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:52,390
said i had heard i said she told me that

702
00:32:57,540 --> 00:32:54,310
there had been a UFO crash or something

703
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:57,550
way back out you know through the the

704
00:33:01,470 --> 00:32:58,960
wooded area you know because a lot of

705
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:01,480
campers and stuffs there too and he said

706
00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:03,370
I maybe that was a meteorite he said but

707
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:06,160
you know I had this a couple that came

708
00:33:10,260 --> 00:33:08,290
by here and they were they wanted to go

709
00:33:11,970 --> 00:33:10,270
canoeing and I had it like you know like

710
00:33:14,190 --> 00:33:11,980
go back about a mile and a half in the

711
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:14,200
woods carrying their canoe and they

712
00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:16,270
stopped under one of these chambers with

713
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:17,950
the dolmen you know the top and all and

714
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:20,320
he said for two nights in a row they had

715
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:22,000
UFO sightings this ball of light or

716
00:33:26,930 --> 00:33:23,530
whatever it was would come right over

717
00:33:29,250 --> 00:33:26,940
the the the top of the the chamber and

718
00:33:31,730 --> 00:33:29,260
finally I guess they decided that maybe

719
00:33:34,110 --> 00:33:31,740
they would do their canoeing or hiking

720
00:33:36,090 --> 00:33:34,120
somewhere else but he said there have

721
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:36,100
been other reports and stuff there now I

722
00:33:41,310 --> 00:33:38,320
guess the the Vikings aren't they

723
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:41,320
usually a thought of as big but we don't

724
00:33:44,910 --> 00:33:42,970
know that's a case either because some

725
00:33:46,610 --> 00:33:44,920
of these places have writing on it and

726
00:33:50,010 --> 00:33:46,620
nobody knows who wrote them you know and

727
00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:50,020
it's all a mystery well yeah I've heard

728
00:33:54,930 --> 00:33:52,720
the Celts also made it into the st.

729
00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:54,940
Lawrence lot away and into the Great

730
00:34:01,710 --> 00:33:58,570
Lakes and my my second sighting was on a

731
00:34:05,310 --> 00:34:01,720
Canadian lake and those are our I have a

732
00:34:07,770 --> 00:34:05,320
friend who still goes out to see the

733
00:34:10,830 --> 00:34:07,780
orbs over the lake and she's a very

734
00:34:12,810 --> 00:34:10,840
objective observer but there's there's

735
00:34:15,710 --> 00:34:12,820
all sorts of activity over Canadian

736
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:15,720
Lakes my second encounter was by lake

737
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:20,290
eagle lake which is in ontario really

738
00:34:24,450 --> 00:34:21,850
the only time i'm telling me that well

739
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:24,460
that's the head tell us that yeah that

740
00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:27,610
worked there isn't I don't have Pete

741
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:31,300
Townsend much of it but um we we went up

742
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:33,130
there for my cousin's first birthday and

743
00:34:38,490 --> 00:34:34,810
we were the same age so I know I was

744
00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:38,500
four and my parents are we rented a

745
00:34:42,930 --> 00:34:40,990
cabin it had just a hole for a toilet

746
00:34:43,710 --> 00:34:42,940
that horrified me I never seen such a

747
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:43,720
thing it was in the

748
00:34:51,149 --> 00:34:47,770
Adam but just a deep hole and a very

749
00:34:52,770 --> 00:34:51,159
primitive cabin and usually my mother

750
00:34:54,359 --> 00:34:52,780
wouldn't have left me alone I don't

751
00:34:56,849 --> 00:34:54,369
think you know if we were just there for

752
00:34:59,250 --> 00:34:56,859
one day and one night I guess but I

753
00:35:01,500 --> 00:34:59,260
remembered that this was in the daytime

754
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:01,510
but for some reason my parents were

755
00:35:06,930 --> 00:35:04,570
apparently out talking with my uncle and

756
00:35:09,420 --> 00:35:06,940
his wife who also they were the parents

757
00:35:12,990 --> 00:35:09,430
of the kid that had the birthday and we

758
00:35:16,770 --> 00:35:13,000
met up there the two families and so I

759
00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:16,780
was alone in the cabin and this being

760
00:35:22,470 --> 00:35:19,630
that I had encountered came in the door

761
00:35:25,470 --> 00:35:22,480
with dark glasses on a red checkered

762
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:25,480
shirt and blue jeans and strangely

763
00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:27,250
enough I have talked to three other

764
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:30,960
people over the years that suspected

765
00:35:38,849 --> 00:35:36,130
future humans who were who they met who

766
00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:38,859
said they had on or one of them had on a

767
00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:41,260
red checkered shirt in blue jeans so

768
00:35:45,570 --> 00:35:43,750
it's kind of like the computer on the

769
00:35:48,750 --> 00:35:45,580
starship must say oh you're going to

770
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:48,760
20th century earth or 21st century you

771
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:51,280
need a red checkered shirt and blue

772
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:54,160
jeans here anyway he had on dark glasses

773
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:56,290
which he put up a wreath head when he

774
00:36:02,160 --> 00:35:58,480
came in and he says diane do you

775
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:02,170
remember me and i said yes and he said

776
00:36:07,710 --> 00:36:05,650
are you afraid and I said no and I was

777
00:36:10,710 --> 00:36:07,720
holding my little golden book I don't

778
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:10,720
know if Tim's old enough and did you

779
00:36:15,210 --> 00:36:12,970
have any little Goldberg said oh yeah

780
00:36:17,550 --> 00:36:15,220
yeah surely yeah they were in a series

781
00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:17,560
and the my favorite was twice in the

782
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:21,550
Arab I I read them now even generating

783
00:36:28,410 --> 00:36:26,410
them and I actually that's it my

784
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:28,420
favorite one was Toys in the Attic which

785
00:36:33,089 --> 00:36:30,510
is about not being afraid of the unknown

786
00:36:35,820 --> 00:36:33,099
which is whether coincidence so I was

787
00:36:38,099 --> 00:36:35,830
holding my little phone book and that's

788
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:38,109
all I remember that but the strange

789
00:36:43,950 --> 00:36:41,500
thing is my little girl so you know that

790
00:36:47,460 --> 00:36:43,960
could be I have no other recollection of

791
00:36:49,859 --> 00:36:47,470
what happened but um my little golden

792
00:36:52,260 --> 00:36:49,869
book from there after had a strange

793
00:36:54,990 --> 00:36:52,270
substance on it and I wish I had kept

794
00:36:57,029 --> 00:36:55,000
that book now I had it until I was about

795
00:36:59,640 --> 00:36:57,039
20 and they

796
00:37:03,029 --> 00:36:59,650
and our black helicopters coming she was

797
00:37:04,979 --> 00:37:03,039
just a helicopter going over and then it

798
00:37:07,469 --> 00:37:04,989
was lost we moved to the Virgin Islands

799
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:07,479
one for my first teaching job and our

800
00:37:11,609 --> 00:37:09,910
shipment got lost part of our Shiva and

801
00:37:15,059 --> 00:37:11,619
that book would have been in there it

802
00:37:18,539 --> 00:37:15,069
was but anyway back to four years old um

803
00:37:20,339 --> 00:37:18,549
it had a strange substance on it that my

804
00:37:22,319 --> 00:37:20,349
mother said well how did you get large

805
00:37:25,229 --> 00:37:22,329
on your books she decided it was lard

806
00:37:27,659 --> 00:37:25,239
she hated large she was very health

807
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:27,669
minded she we didn't have lured in the

808
00:37:34,109 --> 00:37:31,359
cabin she didn't and um it was it went

809
00:37:35,909 --> 00:37:34,119
through every page of the book it was

810
00:37:38,849 --> 00:37:35,919
almost like the book got slimed from

811
00:37:41,819 --> 00:37:38,859
ghostbusters Jordan wasn't slimy it was

812
00:37:44,339 --> 00:37:41,829
a softer and so I don't know if that has

813
00:37:48,209 --> 00:37:44,349
any bearing on anything but to create a

814
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:48,219
kicker of this is 30 years later as Aunt

815
00:37:54,959 --> 00:37:51,130
Marge the kids mother called my mother

816
00:37:57,900 --> 00:37:54,969
she divorced her house the bill the

817
00:37:59,819 --> 00:37:57,910
others her husband and we hadn't heard

818
00:38:01,289 --> 00:37:59,829
from march four years but she wanted to

819
00:38:04,589 --> 00:38:01,299
talk to my mother just the same Merry

820
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:04,599
Christmas she asked how was Diane and my

821
00:38:09,809 --> 00:38:07,089
mother says oh she's investigating UFOs

822
00:38:12,659 --> 00:38:09,819
and Marge says well you know bill and I

823
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:12,669
saw two years UFOs when we were in a

824
00:38:17,729 --> 00:38:16,209
canoe on Eagle Lake that time she had

825
00:38:19,890 --> 00:38:17,739
never said that that was not a

826
00:38:22,349 --> 00:38:19,900
suggestion that I get we had never heard

827
00:38:25,259 --> 00:38:22,359
that before so it was kind of confirmed

828
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:25,269
at least that there was UFO activity now

829
00:38:29,609 --> 00:38:27,609
how old you weren't for years old when

830
00:38:34,709 --> 00:38:29,619
this one happened I was for both times

831
00:38:38,099 --> 00:38:34,719
as far as the mainland that Leo help me

832
00:38:41,549 --> 00:38:38,109
remember um I I have no way of knowing I

833
00:38:43,169 --> 00:38:41,559
figured out I was four or five but this

834
00:38:45,839 --> 00:38:43,179
one I know I was four because I was the

835
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:45,849
same age as my cousin and he had his

836
00:38:55,949 --> 00:38:51,729
birthday up there now as Titus ever told

837
00:38:58,890 --> 00:38:55,959
you why he picked you to it you know to

838
00:39:03,329 --> 00:38:58,900
be his as a friend or however you would

839
00:39:08,309 --> 00:39:03,339
yeah whatever to call that um no I have

840
00:39:10,769 --> 00:39:08,319
a theory on it of course I have a

841
00:39:13,649 --> 00:39:10,779
half-brother who's ten years older

842
00:39:17,609 --> 00:39:13,659
so when I was four he was 14 he was

843
00:39:19,699 --> 00:39:17,619
having a lot of minerals or the purity

844
00:39:25,109 --> 00:39:19,709
problems he was just a very unhappy kid

845
00:39:27,479 --> 00:39:25,119
very smart but he had nightmares of

846
00:39:31,739 --> 00:39:27,489
three little guys he named Mulholland

847
00:39:36,089 --> 00:39:31,749
Powell in the same year very creative

848
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:36,099
very creative and he was so dangerous

849
00:39:41,399 --> 00:39:39,249
that in the daytime he was so scared of

850
00:39:43,769 --> 00:39:41,409
these guys they were it was a recurring

851
00:39:46,380 --> 00:39:43,779
nightmare that my mother said don't go

852
00:39:48,929 --> 00:39:46,390
in Norman's room he's got a baseball bat

853
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:48,939
and a knife and was we were actually

854
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:52,089
afraid of him for a while but he was

855
00:39:58,169 --> 00:39:55,119
scared am Ojo and pole and my experience

856
00:39:59,609 --> 00:39:58,179
that maybe a saucer went over and so

857
00:40:02,669 --> 00:39:59,619
well there's two little kids down there

858
00:40:05,219 --> 00:40:02,679
for our get to know a human program they

859
00:40:08,099 --> 00:40:05,229
tried my brother and he wasn't a good he

860
00:40:09,479 --> 00:40:08,109
wasn't passing us not a good subject not

861
00:40:11,579 --> 00:40:09,489
a good subject for interplanetary

862
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:11,589
relations you know you want to put him

863
00:40:18,929 --> 00:40:14,880
in your father's but you still like me

864
00:40:21,739 --> 00:40:18,939
and then well just briefly the same

865
00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:21,749
season I tried with an old guy recently

866
00:40:27,689 --> 00:40:25,689
who said that his cousin saw two little

867
00:40:31,380 --> 00:40:27,699
guy friend in a saucer five miles away

868
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:31,390
from where I grew up the same year they

869
00:40:36,449 --> 00:40:34,089
got out of their saucer they put water

870
00:40:38,399 --> 00:40:36,459
in a vessel from a stream this his

871
00:40:41,399 --> 00:40:38,409
cousin was bailing hay out in the field

872
00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:41,409
they put water in the vessel and they

873
00:40:45,289 --> 00:40:43,359
got back in the saucer and flew away and

874
00:40:48,689 --> 00:40:45,299
he said his cousin was so afraid of

875
00:40:51,390 --> 00:40:48,699
community laughter and derision he never

876
00:40:55,169 --> 00:40:51,400
told anybody but just this one okay I

877
00:40:58,259 --> 00:40:55,179
talked to and so that was like strange

878
00:41:01,289 --> 00:40:58,269
confirmation or near confirmation 60

879
00:41:03,689 --> 00:41:01,299
years later he add this we were talking

880
00:41:06,359 --> 00:41:03,699
about UFOs me in this old guy who just

881
00:41:09,779 --> 00:41:06,369
what he knew my brother is right he go

882
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:09,789
into my driveway but they're saying

883
00:41:16,890 --> 00:41:12,729
senior there was a foster landing five

884
00:41:19,319 --> 00:41:16,900
miles away what your Europe you you have

885
00:41:21,449 --> 00:41:19,329
a wealth of information on all this and

886
00:41:22,690 --> 00:41:21,459
and that's why I think I've always kind

887
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:22,700
of

888
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:27,450
appreciate it the way you attack this if

889
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,250
that's the right word because you know

890
00:41:34,460 --> 00:41:31,680
most people are who are like pie in the

891
00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:34,470
sky new-age bliss bunnies i call them

892
00:41:42,740 --> 00:41:38,070
you know what what do you call them

893
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:42,750
bliss many if I Carlin was that's it but

894
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:45,480
it was affected with affection yeah okay

895
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:47,370
well mine isn't quite so much affection

896
00:41:51,830 --> 00:41:49,770
but no no I've had listen I've had the

897
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:51,840
lady friends who are really deepen right

898
00:41:56,450 --> 00:41:54,480
now I tolerate I talk I tolerate almost

899
00:41:59,870 --> 00:41:56,460
anything to be honest with you but now

900
00:42:02,450 --> 00:41:59,880
gone with your accomplice of me yes my

901
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:02,460
feet are more firmly you know it's kind

902
00:42:05,330 --> 00:42:04,110
of interesting because people see all

903
00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:05,340
the books that I've published and it's

904
00:42:09,590 --> 00:42:07,860
well over 200 two titles now and and

905
00:42:11,570 --> 00:42:09,600
think that I'm some wild fanatic who

906
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:11,580
believes everything and I have to tell

907
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:14,730
them to slow down because if anything

908
00:42:19,850 --> 00:42:16,890
I'm a little bit i'm either a fence

909
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:19,860
center or I'm you know a prone to be a

910
00:42:25,550 --> 00:42:22,610
little bit more conservative by a UFO

911
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:25,560
thinking because I don't know anybody

912
00:42:30,140 --> 00:42:27,690
you know this is a field UFOs being

913
00:42:32,510 --> 00:42:30,150
unidentified flying object you you can

914
00:42:34,910 --> 00:42:32,520
believe anything you want about them and

915
00:42:38,510 --> 00:42:34,920
chances are have what you believe is

916
00:42:41,420 --> 00:42:38,520
true yeah yeah I you know I know exactly

917
00:42:45,890 --> 00:42:41,430
where you're coming from and so as you

918
00:42:48,050 --> 00:42:45,900
were saying about me um yeah I have a

919
00:42:51,740 --> 00:42:48,060
little different attitude than a lot of

920
00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:51,750
New Agers and yet i'm not a skeptic i'm

921
00:42:56,540 --> 00:42:53,820
certainly not as good but i try to I've

922
00:42:59,570 --> 00:42:56,550
tried to piece it together I give the

923
00:43:01,760 --> 00:42:59,580
messages that try this once given and I

924
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:01,770
I can't the old boy I'm not terribly

925
00:43:06,860 --> 00:43:04,800
serious about I mean he's not and he

926
00:43:10,580 --> 00:43:06,870
doesn't want to be an ascended master or

927
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:10,590
or or a commander I always bristle a

928
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:13,050
little bit at military titles for these

929
00:43:19,250 --> 00:43:16,530
peoples beings I Titus doesn't like that

930
00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:19,260
but then again you see he comes he

931
00:43:25,940 --> 00:43:22,470
reflects me I'm a bit of a level so i

932
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:25,950
don't know but i like your attitude to

933
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:28,710
tim i respect it and i'm a little

934
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:32,310
different but I'm not we we have this

935
00:43:38,010 --> 00:43:34,970
room for everybody

936
00:43:42,730 --> 00:43:38,020
in this field isn't that right angel

937
00:43:46,450 --> 00:43:42,740
angel is that isn't that right Carla

938
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:46,460
that is right Oh cousin said that

939
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:49,610
doesn't sound like Carla Carla hold on

940
00:43:55,750 --> 00:43:52,010
let me uh let me feminized my voice here

941
00:43:59,170 --> 00:43:55,760
a little bit okay that is really okay

942
00:44:00,700 --> 00:43:59,180
okay banjo yeah that's all right that

943
00:44:05,290 --> 00:44:00,710
that's for the funny show that we do on

944
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:05,300
Wednesday night yeah okay so from from

945
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:09,650
how long were you in Ireland ibis there

946
00:44:15,610 --> 00:44:12,410
five years and you speak with it can you

947
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:15,620
speak with an Irish accent no but I

948
00:44:20,830 --> 00:44:18,710
studied the Irish language and it comes

949
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:20,840
that's a hard language but you know that

950
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:23,570
they have armed like the sword of light

951
00:44:30,190 --> 00:44:25,760
you might have a word for this isn't

952
00:44:32,650 --> 00:44:30,200
exact but this is a example is something

953
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:32,660
like writing has one level of meaning

954
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:35,930
and then there's the sword of light on a

955
00:44:42,820 --> 00:44:38,530
deeper level but it's the same word and

956
00:44:45,940 --> 00:44:42,830
it's just a crazy language very hard to

957
00:44:49,390 --> 00:44:45,950
learn did did Titus visit you were when

958
00:44:51,340 --> 00:44:49,400
you were in Ireland why he was he sure

959
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:51,350
to have a lot i had an old word

960
00:44:56,590 --> 00:44:54,290
processor that drove me nuts and had an

961
00:44:59,350 --> 00:44:56,600
old cabin oh i did take some amazing

962
00:45:02,110 --> 00:44:59,360
photos in ireland of my part I call my

963
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:02,120
flying gummy bear in that all that's

964
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:04,970
that's a good that's a great photo oh it

965
00:45:10,870 --> 00:45:06,800
is where nobody's ever debunked it

966
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:10,880
either I defy anybody to debunk fencing

967
00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:15,170
I took it on a camera to cross 15 points

968
00:45:21,550 --> 00:45:17,390
which was you know like twenty dollars

969
00:45:24,070 --> 00:45:21,560
or something a cheap camera and my cat

970
00:45:26,980 --> 00:45:24,080
is in the picture and yeah it is again

971
00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:26,990
also there's the second frame and the

972
00:45:31,180 --> 00:45:28,880
life-form has changed from the flying

973
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:31,190
gummy bear into a disc shape into a kind

974
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:33,850
of a gobby disc shape so it changed and

975
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:37,490
there's a second frame so it isn't right

976
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:40,730
of be sitting on the camera it just

977
00:45:46,060 --> 00:45:43,370
isn't yeah we're going to have a fellow

978
00:45:48,970 --> 00:45:46,070
on the program in a couple of weeks

979
00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:48,980
maybe next week even he's written a book

980
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:50,960
I don't know the exact title his name is

981
00:45:55,690 --> 00:45:53,119
Chris let's just call it food of the

982
00:46:00,240 --> 00:45:55,700
gods it's like the interrelationship

983
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:00,250
between food and liquids and aliens and

984
00:46:07,450 --> 00:46:04,850
bigfoot and fairies okay yeah it's

985
00:46:12,460 --> 00:46:07,460
different I obvious and he's got a book

986
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:12,470
that just came out on it huh sounds

987
00:46:16,510 --> 00:46:14,510
interesting yeah it is i'm looking

988
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:16,520
forward to speaking with me I just had

989
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:18,530
the book published it's only been out

990
00:46:24,099 --> 00:46:21,310
for a few days and so you know it'll be

991
00:46:26,980 --> 00:46:24,109
coming up because we like to get people

992
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:26,990
on the show here who are not overexposed

993
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:29,210
we want to hear you know I want to get

994
00:46:33,460 --> 00:46:31,130
people on whose stories that I want to

995
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:33,470
hear that i can I can learn something

996
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:36,770
from their relating their experiences to

997
00:46:40,750 --> 00:46:38,810
me and some of the regulars there all

998
00:46:44,170 --> 00:46:40,760
right you know but we've heard it you

999
00:46:46,270 --> 00:46:44,180
know 50 times and so let's move on and

1000
00:46:49,210 --> 00:46:46,280
talk about something that you know more

1001
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:49,220
you know realistic but speaking of

1002
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:52,400
realistic you from I remember you you

1003
00:46:58,180 --> 00:46:54,650
moved it at that point from Ireland to

1004
00:47:01,090 --> 00:46:58,190
Joshua Tree yes I did that and you took

1005
00:47:04,090 --> 00:47:01,100
your cats with you oh I thought I came

1006
00:47:06,340 --> 00:47:04,100
back into the states with 15 cats and a

1007
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:06,350
st. Bernard and a big golden Labrador

1008
00:47:11,740 --> 00:47:09,410
and it was before nine eleven I never

1009
00:47:13,990 --> 00:47:11,750
would have made it to JFK you were

1010
00:47:17,740 --> 00:47:14,000
waiting trim on the other side oh you

1011
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:17,750
ask I guess with your prose all that but

1012
00:47:23,620 --> 00:47:19,520
they just let they just laughed me

1013
00:47:28,359 --> 00:47:23,630
through the customs a director didn't

1014
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,369
want anything to do as I was waiting on

1015
00:47:33,580 --> 00:47:30,800
the other side you had rented a van or

1016
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:33,590
something and then you then your

1017
00:47:37,690 --> 00:47:35,210
daughter came in and met me I don't

1018
00:47:39,099 --> 00:47:37,700
think the day or two later or something

1019
00:47:40,210 --> 00:47:39,109
because I know she wasn't with you or

1020
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:40,220
maybe she hung out with me i don't

1021
00:47:45,370 --> 00:47:42,050
remember that's quite a while ago but

1022
00:47:48,330 --> 00:47:45,380
you have had a much i was manoj is that

1023
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:48,340
the right word I menagerie a menagerie

1024
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:52,730
actually that's the word oh but just

1025
00:47:58,390 --> 00:47:56,050
don't just on ended in at wha and you I

1026
00:48:01,839 --> 00:47:58,400
got off on the wrong guy I was thinking

1027
00:48:04,970 --> 00:48:01,849
the wrong person so yes

1028
00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:04,980
well I might have had a menage i mighta

1029
00:48:12,740 --> 00:48:08,940
had a ménage with my guess but I really

1030
00:48:14,539 --> 00:48:12,750
I've ever 11 old hoochie had who was

1031
00:48:18,490 --> 00:48:14,549
just a favorite of mine although

1032
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:18,500
sometimes he got on my case was a Ripley

1033
00:48:24,049 --> 00:48:21,960
Ripley the Sheep no idea although he

1034
00:48:26,630 --> 00:48:24,059
does what I you know I was thinking of

1035
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:26,640
him the other just the other day uh you

1036
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:28,470
know that he if he's up in doggie heaven

1037
00:48:35,529 --> 00:48:31,170
or something like I'm sure he is rolling

1038
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:35,539
around and ready to bite my ankles

1039
00:48:41,930 --> 00:48:38,640
together so well referee went to

1040
00:48:46,339 --> 00:48:41,940
Amsterdam with me and he died there it's

1041
00:48:48,259 --> 00:48:46,349
but yeah he he was a great old dog he

1042
00:48:50,809 --> 00:48:48,269
used to talk in the back of the car you

1043
00:48:54,109 --> 00:48:50,819
go people relax cuz it looks like he was

1044
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:54,119
talking he would slap his jaw and people

1045
00:48:59,930 --> 00:48:57,200
in other cars were like laughing at us

1046
00:49:01,910 --> 00:48:59,940
well he was here he was a he was he was

1047
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:01,920
a character but you you certainly

1048
00:49:06,890 --> 00:49:05,369
haven't treated your animals well and I

1049
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:06,900
was asking you the other day if any of

1050
00:49:11,359 --> 00:49:08,640
them were still you know living from

1051
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:11,369
joshua tree and on you said no that they

1052
00:49:17,299 --> 00:49:14,400
weren't right but i do have a virtual

1053
00:49:19,999 --> 00:49:17,309
cat sanctuary here because i have 10

1054
00:49:22,609 --> 00:49:20,009
acres and a big barn and a big old

1055
00:49:25,249 --> 00:49:22,619
farmhouse it doesn't vary fan isn't

1056
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:25,259
worth much of anything else and there

1057
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:27,569
isn't an animal shelter in this county

1058
00:49:34,579 --> 00:49:30,089
in iowa it's a big farming corporate

1059
00:49:37,099 --> 00:49:34,589
farming county and so the cats releases

1060
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:37,109
just feels like in winter it's really

1061
00:49:42,319 --> 00:49:40,170
brutal and there used to be family farms

1062
00:49:45,019 --> 00:49:42,329
that had passed and maybe would give a

1063
00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:45,029
melt from the cows or but now the family

1064
00:49:49,460 --> 00:49:46,680
farms really don't exist it's our

1065
00:49:52,370 --> 00:49:49,470
corporate and I've you know feral cats

1066
00:49:56,329 --> 00:49:52,380
have become my best friends and one of

1067
00:49:59,599 --> 00:49:56,339
them is my office can i got over 70 cats

1068
00:50:02,599 --> 00:49:59,609
here on 10 acres and I always I'm always

1069
00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:02,609
looking for donations quite frankly

1070
00:50:06,769 --> 00:50:04,470
because it's a lie I mean they're in

1071
00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:06,779
good health they get vaccinations good

1072
00:50:13,690 --> 00:50:11,160
food and but it's I you know I wanted to

1073
00:50:17,140 --> 00:50:13,700
give back to the animal I have to

1074
00:50:19,420 --> 00:50:17,150
dogs you said pan but that kind of found

1075
00:50:21,610 --> 00:50:19,430
homes for most of them but they were my

1076
00:50:24,460 --> 00:50:21,620
only friends in childhood I did have

1077
00:50:26,620 --> 00:50:24,470
invincible they weren't friends they

1078
00:50:28,830 --> 00:50:26,630
were just a presence on when I was seven

1079
00:50:31,780 --> 00:50:28,840
or eight I called them the remembers and

1080
00:50:34,990 --> 00:50:31,790
but outside the ad I was kind of a

1081
00:50:38,290 --> 00:50:35,000
lonely kid because they just weren't any

1082
00:50:40,270 --> 00:50:38,300
other kids around on the farm and the

1083
00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:40,280
cats and dogs for my friends and I

1084
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:42,350
didn't want to just buy this place and

1085
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:45,410
not do something good with it I didn't

1086
00:50:51,130 --> 00:50:47,930
want to just walk around 10 acres so I

1087
00:50:54,940 --> 00:50:51,140
if they come they can if they shall calm

1088
00:50:57,070 --> 00:50:54,950
they can stay as far as well I know I

1089
00:50:59,380 --> 00:50:57,080
know even though it didn't the local

1090
00:51:01,810 --> 00:50:59,390
newspaper do an article about you and

1091
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:01,820
there's a one of the dogs at all and

1092
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:04,130
they did here for a while the old German

1093
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:07,310
Shepherd yes he's not with us anymore he

1094
00:51:16,030 --> 00:51:12,530
was old when I took him in but also i've

1095
00:51:18,820 --> 00:51:16,040
been on the local TV station my dog can

1096
00:51:20,890 --> 00:51:18,830
and I Burke out against dog fighting

1097
00:51:23,620 --> 00:51:20,900
because she was used as bait in a dog

1098
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:23,630
fighting ring before I adopted her I

1099
00:51:29,260 --> 00:51:26,000
have a friend who does a Rottweiler

1100
00:51:31,390 --> 00:51:29,270
Rescue Service kalyani that's chris

1101
00:51:34,450 --> 00:51:31,400
Christie we've known for a long time

1102
00:51:36,340 --> 00:51:34,460
anyway where we're coming up on the oh

1103
00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:36,350
and I guess seven or eight minutes here

1104
00:51:41,110 --> 00:51:39,110
so Diane tell it now you've written the

1105
00:51:45,010 --> 00:51:41,120
course I published a couple of your your

1106
00:51:48,910 --> 00:51:45,020
books yet my favorite is passport to

1107
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:48,920
heaven I internet Brock yeah that tells

1108
00:51:52,990 --> 00:51:50,570
about people who have had experience of

1109
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:53,000
seeing loved ones either emerging from

1110
00:52:00,550 --> 00:51:57,170
UFOs or somehow associated with aliens

1111
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:00,560
and half of it and I wrote half of it

1112
00:52:06,490 --> 00:52:03,440
yeah and I guess technically it was in

1113
00:52:08,650 --> 00:52:06,500
print until my my storage if Edmund had

1114
00:52:10,660 --> 00:52:08,660
all these books the weather got to it

1115
00:52:13,210 --> 00:52:10,670
the flood got to it the rats got to it

1116
00:52:14,380 --> 00:52:13,220
and frankly I mean book sales have

1117
00:52:16,780 --> 00:52:14,390
changed you know where you can sell

1118
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:16,790
hundreds of books before you put it on

1119
00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:20,240
the you know amazon and you know pray to

1120
00:52:25,550 --> 00:52:22,880
the the gods that you know somebody you

1121
00:52:29,510 --> 00:52:25,560
know what I exactly a hard time

1122
00:52:32,990 --> 00:52:29,520
yeah for Eddie anyway you have a reprint

1123
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:33,000
of the transformation is your original

1124
00:52:39,470 --> 00:52:36,090
your original UFO experiences and your

1125
00:52:42,410 --> 00:52:39,480
nation know that I business right my

1126
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:42,420
main reasons of titles and then my first

1127
00:52:46,610 --> 00:52:44,130
channeling and many people say that's

1128
00:52:49,310 --> 00:52:46,620
their favorite book and it makes them

1129
00:52:51,290 --> 00:52:49,320
cry but that's that's a good thing I

1130
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:51,300
guess but it's that I always I always

1131
00:52:56,270 --> 00:52:53,280
liked that book because there's a

1132
00:52:59,720 --> 00:52:56,280
photograph of you standing next to a

1133
00:53:01,100 --> 00:52:59,730
stuffed alien with antennae on its head

1134
00:53:05,750 --> 00:53:01,110
that somebody had left on the front

1135
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:05,760
porch in a sec it's easy call home BP

1136
00:53:11,630 --> 00:53:09,210
became my identity Oh gone home yeah

1137
00:53:13,130 --> 00:53:11,640
yeah yeah because at that at that point

1138
00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:13,140
I think we were getting a little bit too

1139
00:53:18,350 --> 00:53:16,920
much local publicity and many others in

1140
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:18,360
our I think there was an article in the

1141
00:53:24,530 --> 00:53:22,170
paper I had come yes it was I am yes I

1142
00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:24,540
was a bit upset at the thai kind of

1143
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:26,310
scared almost at the time because I said

1144
00:53:31,490 --> 00:53:28,650
who would do they was on my doorstep it

1145
00:53:34,550 --> 00:53:31,500
was kind of but looking back on it life

1146
00:53:36,470 --> 00:53:34,560
haha yeah I I think that was where I

1147
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:36,480
think that was kind of hysterical I mean

1148
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:38,610
I don't think it was I've had worse I've

1149
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:41,010
certainly have worse frights then than

1150
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:42,930
that okay and you have a new book that I

1151
00:53:46,340 --> 00:53:44,610
haven't even seen because you didn't

1152
00:53:49,250 --> 00:53:46,350
send me a topic it's called you are for

1153
00:53:54,620 --> 00:53:49,260
agenda do you want to know the truth yes

1154
00:53:56,690 --> 00:53:54,630
and that is me I say that's how do I say

1155
00:53:59,810 --> 00:53:56,700
this its private channeling media I

1156
00:54:02,570 --> 00:53:59,820
decided to say in joking it's a little

1157
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:02,580
different in science speculation about

1158
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:06,210
it's got the 10 most likely sources of

1159
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:11,250
UFO occupants Dark Matter plasma future

1160
00:54:17,870 --> 00:54:14,570
humans dimensional other-dimensional

1161
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:17,880
anyway I listed 10 and not the only 10

1162
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:20,880
sources but it's got all sorts of crazy

1163
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:24,480
thoughts in it far out you know are they

1164
00:54:29,630 --> 00:54:27,930
is it is this your science book I would

1165
00:54:32,330 --> 00:54:29,640
call up my science book but I'm sure as

1166
00:54:34,670 --> 00:54:32,340
scientists would say it's not very

1167
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:34,680
scientific it's a sign it's almost

1168
00:54:39,290 --> 00:54:36,450
science fiction only at science

1169
00:54:42,770 --> 00:54:39,300
speculation there's no story to it it's

1170
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,780
it's you know what if humans do manage

1171
00:54:48,620 --> 00:54:44,640
to time travel then they'd be coming

1172
00:54:50,690 --> 00:54:48,630
back to us and anyway it's things like

1173
00:54:54,020 --> 00:54:50,700
that and then reasons why maybe that

1174
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:54,030
might be well next time you come on and

1175
00:54:59,420 --> 00:54:56,250
you will be back on again I assure you

1176
00:55:02,780 --> 00:54:59,430
that we need to talk about the captain

1177
00:55:04,670 --> 00:55:02,790
kirk and Star Trek talk about that any

1178
00:55:07,430 --> 00:55:04,680
day yeah yeah because I know that I

1179
00:55:10,430 --> 00:55:07,440
you're you're you're a more than just a

1180
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:10,440
fan of the the show I mean but it's a

1181
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:13,370
little bit too deep to get into at the

1182
00:55:18,410 --> 00:55:16,530
moment right but we could just teach

1183
00:55:19,940 --> 00:55:18,420
them and say that there was a

1184
00:55:22,340 --> 00:55:19,950
possibility that some of these

1185
00:55:24,860 --> 00:55:22,350
characters were more than just

1186
00:55:27,860 --> 00:55:24,870
characters on a TV show well I don't

1187
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:27,870
yeah i think the Star Trek was an

1188
00:55:34,370 --> 00:55:32,010
implanted vision and that the characters

1189
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:34,380
wouldn't be exactly like on the TV show

1190
00:55:39,530 --> 00:55:37,920
but just to give us the idea that we

1191
00:55:41,650 --> 00:55:39,540
could be out there in the galaxy and

1192
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:41,660
maybe we are in some maybe our

1193
00:55:46,540 --> 00:55:44,490
grandchildren are but not just

1194
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:46,550
grandchildren it's more of a matter of

1195
00:55:51,650 --> 00:55:49,050
evolving our consciousness so that we

1196
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:51,660
actually one of my brother's things is

1197
00:55:56,060 --> 00:55:53,610
that I think we're on the threshold of

1198
00:55:59,690 --> 00:55:56,070
becoming a new species I think Homo

1199
00:56:02,480 --> 00:55:59,700
sapiens is not the end of our line and I

1200
00:56:05,210 --> 00:56:02,490
heard Clyde Lewis did a host show on

1201
00:56:08,510 --> 00:56:05,220
that the other night to new species of

1202
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:08,520
aliens and humans the hybrids anyway

1203
00:56:13,580 --> 00:56:10,770
Diane I want to thank you for coming on

1204
00:56:15,170 --> 00:56:13,590
are you doing it yeah well we've got we

1205
00:56:18,410 --> 00:56:15,180
got off to a grand start we haven't

1206
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:18,420
talked in a while and so we we put this

1207
00:56:24,290 --> 00:56:20,970
all in front of the the public and how

1208
00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:24,300
do people get in touch with you I'm

1209
00:56:31,970 --> 00:56:29,510
online at Diane Testament 0 @ gmail.com

1210
00:56:35,330 --> 00:56:31,980
Diane has been all written together in

1211
00:56:40,010 --> 00:56:35,340
little letters and then zero dot com I

1212
00:56:43,550 --> 00:56:40,020
have a lovely website wws change

1213
00:56:45,830 --> 00:56:43,560
predictions calm I got a lot of

1214
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:45,840
compliments on it if a friend designed

1215
00:56:52,549 --> 00:56:49,410
it it's rather unique and if they would

1216
00:56:55,249 --> 00:56:52,559
want to order the transformation or you

1217
00:56:57,679 --> 00:56:55,259
for agenda for me in paper for my

1218
00:57:04,519 --> 00:56:57,689
daughter graph it and my address is p.o

1219
00:57:09,140 --> 00:57:04,529
box 35 to st. ansgar i were 50 for 72

1220
00:57:12,289 --> 00:57:09,150
well again they can go to my postings on

1221
00:57:13,969 --> 00:57:12,299
facebook and I know I must have posted

1222
00:57:16,999 --> 00:57:13,979
the announcement about tonight's show

1223
00:57:19,789 --> 00:57:17,009
probably on 50 different sites on

1224
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:19,799
facebook like I do every week and they

1225
00:57:23,809 --> 00:57:22,410
could find all this information and look

1226
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:23,819
at the photographs of you and your cat

1227
00:57:29,209 --> 00:57:27,089
and look at photo of you and and I wanna

1228
00:57:31,759 --> 00:57:29,219
thank you for being on tonight and we

1229
00:57:34,039 --> 00:57:31,769
will we will do this again and thank you

1230
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:34,049
for being the lovely person that you are

1231
00:57:40,249 --> 00:57:37,170
and yes take it take take take it away

1232
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:40,259
their st. ansgar okay all right all

1233
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:47,249
right bye for now and angel my god went

1234
00:57:52,009 --> 00:57:49,890
back well what an integer that what what

1235
00:57:54,439 --> 00:57:52,019
an interview that was with Diana Tessman

1236
00:57:58,599 --> 00:57:54,449
we learned all about her travels around

1237
00:58:02,329 --> 00:57:58,609
the world and her experiences with the

1238
00:58:05,380 --> 00:58:02,339
being known as is Titus I mean she's you

1239
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:05,390
know she's like one of the few

1240
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:07,890
channelers and abductee Thai people that

1241
00:58:12,650 --> 00:58:10,319
I can kind of get into because she's

1242
00:58:15,859 --> 00:58:12,660
sensible it's not like her you know her

1243
00:58:18,259 --> 00:58:15,869
mind is out on the clouded niner on some

1244
00:58:20,929 --> 00:58:18,269
other planet it's it's right down here

1245
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:20,939
but speaking of being right down here

1246
00:58:27,609 --> 00:58:24,089
out in Long Island we have with us my

1247
00:58:29,929 --> 00:58:27,619
favorite psychic Maria d'andrea

1248
00:58:32,779 --> 00:58:29,939
professional psychic who was born in

1249
00:58:36,620 --> 00:58:32,789
Budapest she was born inputted budapest

1250
00:58:38,839 --> 00:58:36,630
hungary and she's demonstrated spiritual

1251
00:58:42,289 --> 00:58:38,849
awareness and psychic ability since

1252
00:58:44,239 --> 00:58:42,299
childhood over her lifetime as a

1253
00:58:46,370 --> 00:58:44,249
spiritual leader she has provided

1254
00:58:48,380 --> 00:58:46,380
excellent psychic guidance and

1255
00:58:51,829 --> 00:58:48,390
enlightenment too many people she gives

1256
00:58:53,809 --> 00:58:51,839
classes workshops have has written oh I

1257
00:58:54,979 --> 00:58:53,819
don't know I think seven seven or eight

1258
00:58:57,259 --> 00:58:54,989
books that we've published including

1259
00:58:59,979 --> 00:58:57,269
heaven sent money spells and I wish you

1260
00:59:03,259 --> 00:58:59,989
that that would take effect right away

1261
00:59:05,770 --> 00:59:03,269
secret magical elixirs of life for those

1262
00:59:09,220 --> 00:59:05,780
of us who want to live a longer

1263
00:59:12,730 --> 00:59:09,230
your personal mega power spells and a

1264
00:59:14,380 --> 00:59:12,740
coke Grima and magical formulary and and

1265
00:59:15,790 --> 00:59:14,390
then there are a few other she book

1266
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:15,800
coming out actually in a couple of weeks

1267
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:17,810
we just finished it up and we're waiting

1268
00:59:23,950 --> 00:59:21,530
for our main the graphics of honcho a

1269
00:59:26,170 --> 00:59:23,960
bill current to to organize it and put

1270
00:59:28,660 --> 00:59:26,180
it all together it's simple spells with

1271
00:59:31,630 --> 00:59:28,670
playing cards no need to go out and buy

1272
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:31,640
an expensive deck of tarot go down and

1273
00:59:36,310 --> 00:59:33,290
spend a dollar to dollar store for a

1274
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:36,320
packet a regular ordinary cards and

1275
00:59:42,070 --> 00:59:39,440
you're all set right Maria yes you are

1276
00:59:44,500 --> 00:59:42,080
hi how are you thank you so much for

1277
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:44,510
having me on the show well I would have

1278
00:59:55,150 --> 00:59:50,000
you anywhere I mean whoa all about a

1279
00:59:59,020 --> 00:59:55,160
year ah geez I I usually put my my foot

1280
01:00:01,480 --> 00:59:59,030
in my mouth deep in there are almost it

1281
01:00:03,310 --> 01:00:01,490
there yet uh you know we a water

1282
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:03,320
underneath squishing your search on

1283
01:00:08,650 --> 01:00:06,170
deepest Keith we always we oh we always

1284
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:08,660
start at the beginning and you know my

1285
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:11,090
my grandparents came from hungry as well

1286
01:00:15,790 --> 01:00:13,970
and my grandmother was she had some

1287
01:00:18,460 --> 01:00:15,800
psychic is for the whole family I did

1288
01:00:20,380 --> 01:00:18,470
but she had a she kept a diary which was

1289
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:20,390
in Hungarian so I couldn't read it about

1290
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:21,920
some of her dreams and things like that

1291
01:00:26,380 --> 01:00:24,110
and I think I can help you with that

1292
01:00:28,030 --> 01:00:26,390
yeah well I don't have I don't have it

1293
01:00:30,070 --> 01:00:28,040
anymore but one of the day yeah what

1294
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:30,080
yeah what are two of our books have

1295
01:00:34,990 --> 01:00:32,570
actually been published in Hungarian and

1296
01:00:36,580 --> 01:00:35,000
believing they say they play big

1297
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:36,590
advances like two or three hundred

1298
01:00:40,030 --> 01:00:38,090
dollars i mean you're going to get a

1299
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:40,040
hungarian authors must really make a

1300
01:00:45,430 --> 01:00:42,170
living actually today they probably make

1301
01:00:47,470 --> 01:00:45,440
more than american authors do and that

1302
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:47,480
and that's that's pretty sad anyway

1303
01:00:53,590 --> 01:00:50,510
tight as it maria take it from take it

1304
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:53,600
from the beginning you escaped from you

1305
01:00:59,620 --> 01:00:56,090
escaped from cheslav chess lavake

1306
01:01:02,650 --> 01:00:59,630
adoring the the communist check came

1307
01:01:04,750 --> 01:01:02,660
over the revolution in hungary goes and

1308
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:04,760
then we were in austria for about a year

1309
01:01:10,390 --> 01:01:07,280
and then we came to this country and

1310
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:10,400
it's actually really funny my father you

1311
01:01:14,140 --> 01:01:11,930
know who's passed away my parents have

1312
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:14,150
passed away a while ago and my father

1313
01:01:19,300 --> 01:01:17,450
was always psychic and then with my

1314
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:19,310
mother both my grandpa

1315
01:01:23,590 --> 01:01:21,650
parents with trans medium it skipped

1316
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:23,600
hard but she was just you know inter

1317
01:01:28,570 --> 01:01:25,490
herbs but you know everybody in Europe

1318
01:01:31,990 --> 01:01:28,580
is into herbs and then both my sons are

1319
01:01:34,750 --> 01:01:32,000
psychic so it wait honey we believe

1320
01:01:36,490 --> 01:01:34,760
everybody is so let me let me stop you

1321
01:01:38,860 --> 01:01:36,500
there a minute when you say trance

1322
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:38,870
mediums when what does that were they

1323
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:40,250
physical mediums that they have

1324
01:01:44,770 --> 01:01:42,410
ectoplasm of forming in the room and

1325
01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:44,780
tables tipping and levitating and all of

1326
01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:48,110
that no trance medium just means that

1327
01:01:53,950 --> 01:01:49,910
you're getting your stuff out of the way

1328
01:01:56,740 --> 01:01:53,960
for spirit to come through you and give

1329
01:01:59,680 --> 01:01:56,750
information using your body as opposed

1330
01:02:01,180 --> 01:01:59,690
to a this informant and example when

1331
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:01,190
you're working on a different level

1332
01:02:05,470 --> 01:02:03,530
you're getting information from spirit

1333
01:02:07,660 --> 01:02:05,480
is an example psychically you're just

1334
01:02:09,790 --> 01:02:07,670
getting information from your source or

1335
01:02:12,220 --> 01:02:09,800
some spirit or wherever you're tuned

1336
01:02:13,900 --> 01:02:12,230
into an appositive level and you're

1337
01:02:16,060 --> 01:02:13,910
passing on information where you're one

1338
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:16,070
hundred percent aware and you are you

1339
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:18,170
one hundred percent in control you're

1340
01:02:24,100 --> 01:02:20,690
not allowing anything to come through

1341
01:02:26,770 --> 01:02:24,110
you you know I find I've done trans

1342
01:02:29,110 --> 01:02:26,780
medium work but I honestly try to stay

1343
01:02:31,420 --> 01:02:29,120
away from it because unfortunately I

1344
01:02:33,490 --> 01:02:31,430
Melia or some one of those people where

1345
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:33,500
I don't like to keep up on the person

1346
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:37,970
control it so this way when i get

1347
01:02:45,340 --> 01:02:42,410
psychic information you know i'm getting

1348
01:02:48,130 --> 01:02:45,350
it from my source and like i do believe

1349
01:02:50,170 --> 01:02:48,140
in divine power so it's like tuning into

1350
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:50,180
a source for information to be able to

1351
01:02:55,810 --> 01:02:52,160
pass it on but it's not literally

1352
01:02:58,290 --> 01:02:55,820
stewart taking over my body you're

1353
01:03:00,970 --> 01:02:58,300
you're one of your models is due only

1354
01:03:04,450 --> 01:03:00,980
positive what what exactly do you mean

1355
01:03:06,010 --> 01:03:04,460
by that well first of all i'm a shaman

1356
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:06,020
through europe and i'm also an

1357
01:03:10,540 --> 01:03:08,720
interfaith minister and i truly believe

1358
01:03:13,090 --> 01:03:10,550
that whatever you put out good better

1359
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:13,100
and different always comes back to you

1360
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:15,650
so i am a very strong believer and only

1361
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:18,530
doing positive work whether it's go to

1362
01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:20,450
work or anything personal in your life

1363
01:03:27,460 --> 01:03:22,310
like oh I don't know unimportant things

1364
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:27,470
like ethics so I really feel that even

1365
01:03:33,070 --> 01:03:30,530
when I teach classes I speech I teach

1366
01:03:35,770 --> 01:03:33,080
you know spiritual metaphysical psych

1367
01:03:38,410 --> 01:03:35,780
paranormal classes I only teach the

1368
01:03:40,750 --> 01:03:38,420
positive side because I really feel the

1369
01:03:42,460 --> 01:03:40,760
more people can do for themselves the

1370
01:03:44,500 --> 01:03:42,470
more they can help others and the better

1371
01:03:47,470 --> 01:03:44,510
the world gets so if the only on a

1372
01:03:49,510 --> 01:03:47,480
positive level yeah but let's be

1373
01:03:52,060 --> 01:03:49,520
realistic don't a lot of people that

1374
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:52,070
want to see a psychic or a gypsy or

1375
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:53,810
somebody aren't they looking for the

1376
01:03:59,590 --> 01:03:57,170
gris-gris and the black magic yes they

1377
01:04:01,690 --> 01:03:59,600
are this is it but there's always a

1378
01:04:03,420 --> 01:04:01,700
positive way to accomplish just about

1379
01:04:06,460 --> 01:04:03,430
everything if somebody is looking

1380
01:04:07,990 --> 01:04:06,470
literally for negative work they just

1381
01:04:11,530 --> 01:04:08,000
going to have to find somebody other

1382
01:04:13,990 --> 01:04:11,540
than me I don't do- you know and I

1383
01:04:16,210 --> 01:04:14,000
really believe like I said whatever you

1384
01:04:18,910 --> 01:04:16,220
put out comes back but on a positive

1385
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:18,920
level you can pretty much accomplished

1386
01:04:23,670 --> 01:04:21,410
just about anything so it's totally not

1387
01:04:25,270 --> 01:04:23,680
limited even when you're working

1388
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:25,280
cyclically people have a

1389
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:27,410
misunderstanding of it people always

1390
01:04:32,500 --> 01:04:30,170
think with psychic information that it's

1391
01:04:35,140 --> 01:04:32,510
written in stone and I know Tim you've

1392
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:35,150
heard that one before and it really

1393
01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:37,610
isn't psychic information is really

1394
01:04:42,790 --> 01:04:40,400
meant as a guide so as an example if I'm

1395
01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:42,800
doing the reading what I do is I'm

1396
01:04:47,110 --> 01:04:44,960
telling people something positive if

1397
01:04:49,330 --> 01:04:47,120
they leave their life alone that's

1398
01:04:51,700 --> 01:04:49,340
exactly how it's coming up it's the

1399
01:04:54,460 --> 01:04:51,710
natural path of life if I'm telling them

1400
01:04:56,860 --> 01:04:54,470
something negative it will always tell

1401
01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:56,870
them what caused the negative situation

1402
01:05:01,390 --> 01:04:58,970
and then it will always tell them what

1403
01:05:04,030 --> 01:05:01,400
they can do themselves not me where they

1404
01:05:07,030 --> 01:05:04,040
can do themselves to avoid it improve it

1405
01:05:09,430 --> 01:05:07,040
or change it in some manner so that it's

1406
01:05:11,410 --> 01:05:09,440
a much better situation and then it's

1407
01:05:13,780 --> 01:05:11,420
their free will whether they make the

1408
01:05:15,490 --> 01:05:13,790
change your not if something negative is

1409
01:05:17,890 --> 01:05:15,500
coming up and they have absolutely no

1410
01:05:20,050 --> 01:05:17,900
control at all I would never get the

1411
01:05:21,130 --> 01:05:20,060
information because there's no point you

1412
01:05:23,380 --> 01:05:21,140
know it's not like somebody upstairs

1413
01:05:25,060 --> 01:05:23,390
called haha won't work zip it and

1414
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:25,070
actually most of my clients are

1415
01:05:32,140 --> 01:05:29,090
businessmen because I like details yeah

1416
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:32,150
so I think with businessmen visually

1417
01:05:37,090 --> 01:05:34,250
can't afford to play with company money

1418
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:37,100
thank you that's right you didn't you

1419
01:05:42,940 --> 01:05:39,050
tell me about an experience you had with

1420
01:05:45,190 --> 01:05:42,950
somebody in the military oh yeah I used

1421
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:45,200
to work with the military I was a

1422
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:46,250
tracker

1423
01:05:52,930 --> 01:05:49,310
and it was really funny with years ago

1424
01:05:56,290 --> 01:05:52,940
and you know I was hired really to find

1425
01:05:58,840 --> 01:05:56,300
missing objects people and this

1426
01:06:02,380 --> 01:05:58,850
wonderful gentleman that was a captain

1427
01:06:04,750 --> 01:06:02,390
in the army he called me up everybody

1428
01:06:07,150 --> 01:06:04,760
went up for maneuvers in upstate New

1429
01:06:09,580 --> 01:06:07,160
York and they came back and they're

1430
01:06:11,470 --> 01:06:09,590
missing a jeep so he called me up and he

1431
01:06:12,700 --> 01:06:11,480
wanted me to find the Jeep and I said to

1432
01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:12,710
him the first thing I said to him was

1433
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:18,110
asked the guys where they left it but no

1434
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:20,450
you know sometimes you're the captain

1435
01:06:25,420 --> 01:06:22,370
really doesn't want to tell people that

1436
01:06:28,570 --> 01:06:25,430
they lost the Jeep so I told him that I

1437
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:28,580
felt that it was in their armoury so he

1438
01:06:33,070 --> 01:06:30,290
went he checked and he came back and

1439
01:06:35,140 --> 01:06:33,080
called me and he said it wasn't there so

1440
01:06:37,270 --> 01:06:35,150
we just about three months on and off

1441
01:06:39,550 --> 01:06:37,280
for three months I kept sanctum it feels

1442
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:39,560
to me like it's in the armory and he

1443
01:06:43,660 --> 01:06:41,570
called me back and he go no it isn't and

1444
01:06:46,180 --> 01:06:43,670
then after three months he called me up

1445
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:46,190
and he apologized because what actually

1446
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:48,650
happened was when they came back from

1447
01:06:55,540 --> 01:06:52,640
maneuvers the people in beyond me they

1448
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:55,550
took apart the Jeep to refurbish it so

1449
01:06:59,350 --> 01:06:57,290
it was in the armory the whole time he

1450
01:07:01,420 --> 01:06:59,360
just said it was in little pieces all

1451
01:07:03,070 --> 01:07:01,430
over the place and the reason that they

1452
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:03,080
found it is because after the three

1453
01:07:09,850 --> 01:07:04,490
months they had it all put back together

1454
01:07:14,290 --> 01:07:09,860
again you never know how it's actually

1455
01:07:16,930 --> 01:07:14,300
going to work how exactly where did you

1456
01:07:19,110 --> 01:07:16,940
become like a word that I mean did you

1457
01:07:21,970 --> 01:07:19,120
have a vision that it comes from reading

1458
01:07:23,740 --> 01:07:21,980
no honestly there's no other way to

1459
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:23,750
explain it sometimes it's just I just

1460
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:26,530
know there's no other way to put it it's

1461
01:07:32,740 --> 01:07:29,570
an example somebody will ask a question

1462
01:07:34,570 --> 01:07:32,750
and I'll get them an answer and after I

1463
01:07:38,650 --> 01:07:34,580
give them an answer I go oh how do I do

1464
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:38,660
that is so it just comes sometimes I get

1465
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:41,810
clairvoyance which is psychic leasing so

1466
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:45,200
I'll see people or objects or a map as

1467
01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:48,050
an example sometimes often does that

1468
01:07:52,690 --> 01:07:50,480
happen cuz that how often does that

1469
01:07:56,460 --> 01:07:52,700
happen compared to where you just have a

1470
01:07:59,510 --> 01:07:56,470
vision or just you just know it well

1471
01:08:01,130 --> 01:07:59,520
because I do this full time

1472
01:08:05,210 --> 01:08:01,140
ninety percent of the time it said I

1473
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:05,220
just know but I do get visions so it

1474
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:07,530
really depends on the situation I truly

1475
01:08:12,350 --> 01:08:09,930
never know ahead of time how I'm going

1476
01:08:14,180 --> 01:08:12,360
to get the information people always

1477
01:08:16,370 --> 01:08:14,190
assume that if you work in one

1478
01:08:17,750 --> 01:08:16,380
particular modality that's the way

1479
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:17,760
you're always going to get the

1480
01:08:24,170 --> 01:08:21,330
information but it really isn't it's it

1481
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:24,180
changes next sometimes I get automatic

1482
01:08:28,309 --> 01:08:26,730
writing sometimes I have different

1483
01:08:31,579 --> 01:08:28,319
experiences like you know I have

1484
01:08:35,660 --> 01:08:31,589
out-of-body experiences or I didn't tell

1485
01:08:40,510 --> 01:08:35,670
a genetic so you know it's a little bit

1486
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:40,520
different yeah it's different each time

1487
01:08:45,019 --> 01:08:42,810
Carla have you ever had a psychic

1488
01:08:46,970 --> 01:08:45,029
reading I think we lost Carlo again I

1489
01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:46,980
don't know what's going on with her hmm

1490
01:08:54,410 --> 01:08:52,319
ok ok neatly lumpy so you can get a

1491
01:08:55,970 --> 01:08:54,420
record oh but anyway yeah I had a second

1492
01:08:57,590 --> 01:08:55,980
experience actually I lived in a house

1493
01:09:00,559 --> 01:08:57,600
that I had all kind of psychic psychic

1494
01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:00,569
activity true story when we first moved

1495
01:09:06,079 --> 01:09:03,600
to Miami from New Orleans was this

1496
01:09:09,620 --> 01:09:06,089
really old home and I was maybe like

1497
01:09:11,450 --> 01:09:09,630
nine or ten years old and I actually

1498
01:09:13,099 --> 01:09:11,460
seen a couple things happen I saw ki

1499
01:09:16,490 --> 01:09:13,109
slide from one corner of the desk to

1500
01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:16,500
another by themselves I saw the TV turn

1501
01:09:20,420 --> 01:09:18,750
on and off a bunch of times by itself my

1502
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:20,430
mother and blue really saw a lot of

1503
01:09:24,590 --> 01:09:23,010
activity of the house though I i had a

1504
01:09:26,570 --> 01:09:24,600
like I told me it got so bad that would

1505
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:26,580
like to left the house after a couple

1506
01:09:33,829 --> 01:09:29,730
months of being there that's why are you

1507
01:09:35,630 --> 01:09:33,839
back with this car yes I am oh I was I

1508
01:09:39,620 --> 01:09:35,640
was asking you have you ever had a

1509
01:09:43,610 --> 01:09:39,630
psychic reading oh yeah several and

1510
01:09:52,849 --> 01:09:43,620
would you say that um that they better

1511
01:09:55,370 --> 01:09:52,859
fit at you um they uh I mean I don't I

1512
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:55,380
mean I really feel like oh well I don't

1513
01:09:59,120 --> 01:09:56,880
think I've had a psychic reading I had

1514
01:10:02,150 --> 01:09:59,130
to call my courts read well that's a

1515
01:10:03,860 --> 01:10:02,160
second reading yeah my stepmother my

1516
01:10:06,410 --> 01:10:03,870
stepmother does a card reading she read

1517
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:06,420
my article times it was funny i'm about

1518
01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:08,850
ready eight and a half ten years ago she

1519
01:10:12,740 --> 01:10:11,250
did the first reading for me and I was

1520
01:10:13,070 --> 01:10:12,750
just starting to work at this travel

1521
01:10:15,170 --> 01:10:13,080
agency

1522
01:10:17,540 --> 01:10:15,180
and they had found out about that I had

1523
01:10:18,710 --> 01:10:17,550
to start this new job and it was the

1524
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:18,720
first time I ever got a reading she

1525
01:10:22,010 --> 01:10:19,770
started going through the cards and she

1526
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:22,020
goes to me I see you're gonna be leaving

1527
01:10:27,020 --> 01:10:23,970
in a hurry you know pretty soon to go on

1528
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:27,030
some kind of a trip you know this was

1529
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:29,370
gonna happen with a trip and sure enough

1530
01:10:33,260 --> 01:10:31,170
about two months later went on the trip

1531
01:10:35,060 --> 01:10:33,270
but then I started thinking to myself

1532
01:10:39,350 --> 01:10:35,070
like wait a second she knows I'm a

1533
01:10:41,060 --> 01:10:39,360
travel agent trip I actually got

1534
01:10:42,380 --> 01:10:41,070
divorced Donna I say I don't think you

1535
01:10:45,110 --> 01:10:42,390
have to be a psychic to know that I was

1536
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:45,120
eventually gonna go out on a trip to

1537
01:10:49,670 --> 01:10:46,650
realize i was gonna get divorced that's

1538
01:10:51,110 --> 01:10:49,680
how I divorced uh no no nowadays with

1539
01:10:54,530 --> 01:10:51,120
the way that the way the divorce rate is

1540
01:10:56,420 --> 01:10:54,540
you have to be a psychic to know what's

1541
01:11:00,260 --> 01:10:56,430
gonna happen your statistic yeah that's

1542
01:11:01,730 --> 01:11:00,270
my second reading the woman up first she

1543
01:11:03,980 --> 01:11:01,740
was reading my palm and she said blah

1544
01:11:05,330 --> 01:11:03,990
blah bah i see that he's you were dating

1545
01:11:07,130 --> 01:11:05,340
a lot you're trying to settle down I

1546
01:11:08,810 --> 01:11:07,140
said I'm married and she was told she

1547
01:11:10,010 --> 01:11:08,820
was holding the hand with my eyes I said

1548
01:11:15,770 --> 01:11:10,020
you're holding the hand with my ring on

1549
01:11:17,420 --> 01:11:15,780
it she said oh she said I don't at that

1550
01:11:20,660 --> 01:11:17,430
point the reading is over I'm sorry

1551
01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:20,670
that's that's a wrap I'd love tipsy

1552
01:11:25,430 --> 01:11:23,790
flexpay and okay I think you're putting

1553
01:11:27,290 --> 01:11:25,440
something out there that you're asking

1554
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:27,300
yourself really and I think that you

1555
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:29,280
kind of resolve it yourself if you're

1556
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:32,850
kind of open to it i mean i think a lot

1557
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:36,930
of times like I think somehow your your

1558
01:11:41,930 --> 01:11:38,850
answer your own questions with a psychic

1559
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:41,940
reading well it depends on the psychic

1560
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:43,760
it depends of the person actually is

1561
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:46,080
intuitive or the person is just doing it

1562
01:11:50,540 --> 01:11:48,330
to make money and it's a hoaxer really

1563
01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:50,550
depends i do believe it fortunately we

1564
01:11:55,190 --> 01:11:52,710
have a lot of people in the field that

1565
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:55,200
are not real there was only about that

1566
01:11:58,340 --> 01:11:56,370
but i think it's a little bit more

1567
01:12:01,100 --> 01:11:58,350
dominant nowadays because of the media

1568
01:12:03,530 --> 01:12:01,110
and everything else that's out there and

1569
01:12:05,390 --> 01:12:03,540
people going to assume that everybody's

1570
01:12:07,850 --> 01:12:05,400
like that i know some wonderful people

1571
01:12:10,970 --> 01:12:07,860
in my field but there were very few of

1572
01:12:13,340 --> 01:12:10,980
them honestly i looked at for years you

1573
01:12:15,620 --> 01:12:13,350
know what one of the biggest names in

1574
01:12:17,330 --> 01:12:15,630
the psychic world was Sophia brown and

1575
01:12:19,580 --> 01:12:17,340
so Gibran turned out to be one of the

1576
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:19,590
biggest like hoaxers are liars you know

1577
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:21,930
she's dead now but there was a one time

1578
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:23,370
that she was on the Montel Williams read

1579
01:12:26,540 --> 01:12:24,810
review we're familiar than she was on a

1580
01:12:28,430 --> 01:12:26,550
show like that yeah

1581
01:12:29,810 --> 01:12:28,440
and she was on the show and she was

1582
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:29,820
talking to some people in the audience

1583
01:12:32,810 --> 01:12:31,290
as she's tell him about how their son is

1584
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:32,820
dead because they didn't he was missing

1585
01:12:36,290 --> 01:12:34,770
the North was and she tells him all he's

1586
01:12:38,740 --> 01:12:36,300
dead you know he passed away and he's in

1587
01:12:41,419 --> 01:12:38,750
the river so he goes on and on and on

1588
01:12:42,830 --> 01:12:41,429
the Sun wasn't dead it was a girlfriend

1589
01:12:44,899 --> 01:12:42,840
somewhere he just disappeared for a

1590
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:44,909
couple weeks yeah well you know somebody

1591
01:12:49,609 --> 01:12:47,250
that removing all the kick wouldn't ever

1592
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:49,619
have said that even if the situation was

1593
01:12:53,290 --> 01:12:51,210
that they wouldn't afford like that

1594
01:12:55,780 --> 01:12:53,300
because you know what you're sure

1595
01:12:58,760 --> 01:12:55,790
apparently yeah yeah you know what yeah

1596
01:13:00,589 --> 01:12:58,770
yeah but even in private you would never

1597
01:13:03,290 --> 01:13:00,599
say it like that to somebody that's like

1598
01:13:05,540 --> 01:13:03,300
you might as well just hit them yeah you

1599
01:13:06,919 --> 01:13:05,550
know emotionally I did I did have an

1600
01:13:09,290 --> 01:13:06,929
interesting experience though in the

1601
01:13:11,810 --> 01:13:09,300
neighborhood I was at the salon and I

1602
01:13:13,220 --> 01:13:11,820
I've been at my salon for 11 years in

1603
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:13,230
one place and it's not like I had the

1604
01:13:16,939 --> 01:13:15,210
money to move it because this town is

1605
01:13:19,129 --> 01:13:16,949
booming so much that it's just

1606
01:13:20,959 --> 01:13:19,139
everything has gotten very expensive and

1607
01:13:22,729 --> 01:13:20,969
it's very hard to get your inspections

1608
01:13:24,859 --> 01:13:22,739
and it's you really need deep pockets to

1609
01:13:28,669 --> 01:13:24,869
try to open a business around here at

1610
01:13:30,979 --> 01:13:28,679
this stage of the game and no this weird

1611
01:13:33,379 --> 01:13:30,989
little endian guy i thought i could

1612
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:33,389
describe and came into my salon little

1613
01:13:38,270 --> 01:13:35,130
turpin on to i never saw this guy before

1614
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:38,280
he's like a little my good lady and he

1615
01:13:42,260 --> 01:13:40,770
wanted to read me it was it was

1616
01:13:44,149 --> 01:13:42,270
completely random out of nowhere but

1617
01:13:45,589 --> 01:13:44,159
this helped my place is I all these

1618
01:13:48,620 --> 01:13:45,599
characters just walk in and out all the

1619
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:48,630
time you don't know I embrace them even

1620
01:13:52,430 --> 01:13:50,489
have you even had a toll Elliot told why

1621
01:13:55,399 --> 01:13:52,440
dayley yeah yeah I had a tall white came

1622
01:13:58,189 --> 01:13:55,409
in there I just but this guy came in

1623
01:14:00,410 --> 01:13:58,199
here from Planet MBA no but I told my

1624
01:14:03,109 --> 01:14:00,420
sis money I really don't have any money

1625
01:14:04,939 --> 01:14:03,119
you know for reading he said I'll let me

1626
01:14:06,709 --> 01:14:04,949
just do it and he told me all these

1627
01:14:09,500 --> 01:14:06,719
things that were ridiculously

1628
01:14:11,299 --> 01:14:09,510
unbelievable and I had to say they they

1629
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:11,309
and it was such a positive reading that

1630
01:14:13,970 --> 01:14:12,690
I want to give him 20 bucks anyway I

1631
01:14:16,250 --> 01:14:13,980
fished it out of the drawer even I'm

1632
01:14:18,379 --> 01:14:16,260
like here just just the fabulous just t

1633
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:18,389
money even though you wanted 30 at the

1634
01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:19,650
end of it but I only gave him 20 that's

1635
01:14:24,350 --> 01:14:22,320
all I had but I have to say looking back

1636
01:14:26,089 --> 01:14:24,360
all these things happen and they were

1637
01:14:27,919 --> 01:14:26,099
really quite remarkable things that I

1638
01:14:29,540 --> 01:14:27,929
would have never guessed in the time

1639
01:14:31,819 --> 01:14:29,550
frame that this guy came out of no I

1640
01:14:34,580 --> 01:14:31,829
never saw him again he kind of walked in

1641
01:14:36,859 --> 01:14:34,590
told me all this positive stuff and then

1642
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:36,869
it actually started to happen i mean i

1643
01:14:39,979 --> 01:14:38,400
did move the business i did find the

1644
01:14:40,140 --> 01:14:39,989
money you know what I mean I did you

1645
01:14:42,570 --> 01:14:40,150
know

1646
01:14:45,540 --> 01:14:42,580
just one thing after another and it is

1647
01:14:47,700 --> 01:14:45,550
pretty strange you know so I forgot all

1648
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:47,710
about it because it was so random you

1649
01:14:53,340 --> 01:14:50,650
know what's funny house works too

1650
01:14:55,290 --> 01:14:53,350
because people always assume that you're

1651
01:14:56,910 --> 01:14:55,300
reading them you know because I work

1652
01:14:59,010 --> 01:14:56,920
internationally because I can read over

1653
01:15:00,630 --> 01:14:59,020
the phone or in person and people always

1654
01:15:02,340 --> 01:15:00,640
think they have to be in front of you

1655
01:15:05,010 --> 01:15:02,350
but they don't because it's not like

1656
01:15:06,570 --> 01:15:05,020
you're doing body language or you know

1657
01:15:10,020 --> 01:15:06,580
some people that are not real they're

1658
01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:10,030
going to look at you know the colors

1659
01:15:14,430 --> 01:15:12,130
that you're wearing and you can't really

1660
01:15:16,260 --> 01:15:14,440
read some of the colors that somebody's

1661
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:16,270
wearing because what if there was what

1662
01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:18,370
is everything else was in the wash you

1663
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:21,310
know but basically the way we actually

1664
01:15:25,740 --> 01:15:23,890
read is we're not reading the person

1665
01:15:27,750 --> 01:15:25,750
because that's a telepathy then we're

1666
01:15:30,030 --> 01:15:27,760
telling them what they want to hear what

1667
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:30,040
we're doing actually is tuning in to a

1668
01:15:35,300 --> 01:15:32,530
source whether you call it divine power

1669
01:15:37,950 --> 01:15:35,310
or God or whatever you want to call it

1670
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:37,960
it's like we're tuning into a source to

1671
01:15:42,810 --> 01:15:40,690
get information for them and about them

1672
01:15:45,810 --> 01:15:42,820
we're not actually running to the person

1673
01:15:51,060 --> 01:15:45,820
could you give me a reading sure was it

1674
01:15:52,740 --> 01:15:51,070
too personal no I honestly never know

1675
01:15:54,899 --> 01:15:52,750
what's going to come up until at the

1676
01:15:58,320 --> 01:15:54,909
moment what if anything comes up let me

1677
01:16:00,240 --> 01:15:58,330
know let me guess are you getting any

1678
01:16:03,689 --> 01:16:00,250
feelings that the other guy on the line

1679
01:16:10,740 --> 01:16:03,699
here is kind of a funny dude second one

1680
01:16:13,950 --> 01:16:10,750
which one hey I've got I've got a list

1681
01:16:17,820 --> 01:16:13,960
of subjects a here because you know

1682
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:17,830
Maria is really so versatile I mean most

1683
01:16:22,530 --> 01:16:19,840
people in the psychic field you know

1684
01:16:24,540 --> 01:16:22,540
they read cards maybe they read ruin

1685
01:16:26,250 --> 01:16:24,550
stones I had a girlfriend one time when

1686
01:16:28,050 --> 01:16:26,260
I was running the New York School of

1687
01:16:30,149 --> 01:16:28,060
occult arts and sciences which was one

1688
01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:30,159
of the first metaphysical centers in the

1689
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:33,760
country she red candle wax she would

1690
01:16:38,669 --> 01:16:36,489
take a candle and drip the wax into a

1691
01:16:40,290 --> 01:16:38,679
glass of water and do a reading from

1692
01:16:42,660 --> 01:16:40,300
that and you know she was doing accurate

1693
01:16:44,189 --> 01:16:42,670
I had a girlfriend who did other things

1694
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:44,199
with wax wait we can't talk about them

1695
01:16:50,070 --> 01:16:46,449
yeah yeah what was gonna mention that's

1696
01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:50,080
not on this show anyway yeah that's on

1697
01:16:55,730 --> 01:16:52,170
skywatchers that's Wednesday night

1698
01:16:57,230 --> 01:16:55,740
yeah any anyway so you know what we're

1699
01:17:02,780 --> 01:16:57,240
gonna do we're gonna play a little game

1700
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:02,790
Marie and I haha uh I'm engaged yeah i'm

1701
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:05,370
going to throw out a word or a series of

1702
01:17:10,730 --> 01:17:08,330
word words and i want you to tell me

1703
01:17:12,140 --> 01:17:10,740
what your thoughts are on the subject

1704
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:12,150
what you know about it and whether

1705
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:15,510
you've ever practiced it okay let's

1706
01:17:21,610 --> 01:17:18,090
start out with what state and let's

1707
01:17:25,340 --> 01:17:21,620
start out with an easy one psychokinesis

1708
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:25,350
okay now psychokinesis and I've had that

1709
01:17:33,020 --> 01:17:28,410
experience psychokinesis is basically a

1710
01:17:35,990 --> 01:17:33,030
field where your mind is very very

1711
01:17:39,710 --> 01:17:36,000
focused and it's a combination of

1712
01:17:44,540 --> 01:17:39,720
psychic energy and mental focus to be

1713
01:17:46,910 --> 01:17:44,550
able to move objects okay so it's a but

1714
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:46,920
it is a conscious now the funny part is

1715
01:17:52,300 --> 01:17:49,920
I've had that experience where I was

1716
01:17:54,890 --> 01:17:52,310
working psychically and metaphysically

1717
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:54,900
for a couple of months constantly

1718
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:56,970
because this is what I do full-time and

1719
01:18:03,290 --> 01:18:00,000
I was with a friend of mine and we were

1720
01:18:05,090 --> 01:18:03,300
to diner and I was talking to him and I

1721
01:18:07,460 --> 01:18:05,100
went to touch his arm he was sitting

1722
01:18:09,830 --> 01:18:07,470
across the table for me and as I went to

1723
01:18:12,590 --> 01:18:09,840
move the butter dish just moved right

1724
01:18:14,090 --> 01:18:12,600
along with me on the table and all i

1725
01:18:19,130 --> 01:18:14,100
could think who was please don't let

1726
01:18:21,230 --> 01:18:19,140
anybody see this and just because i had

1727
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:21,240
a lot of extra energy things like that

1728
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:23,730
hat tend to happen to me so it was funny

1729
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:27,090
because every now and then objects will

1730
01:18:32,420 --> 01:18:30,450
move around the room i had a very nice

1731
01:18:35,060 --> 01:18:32,430
lady that came to me for reading a while

1732
01:18:37,100 --> 01:18:35,070
ago couple of years ago and i'm talking

1733
01:18:39,500 --> 01:18:37,110
to her and as I'm talking to hide a

1734
01:18:41,630 --> 01:18:39,510
bookshelf with some books on it and the

1735
01:18:44,060 --> 01:18:41,640
book started flying across the room just

1736
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:44,070
because my energy was so high and she

1737
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:46,290
kept go now i believe i believe and I'm

1738
01:18:52,370 --> 01:18:50,250
like no it's not on purpose maybe I was

1739
01:18:54,110 --> 01:18:52,380
causing I couldn't shut it off because I

1740
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:54,120
wasn't doing it on purpose you don't

1741
01:18:59,720 --> 01:18:56,210
draw it on you if psychokinesis is

1742
01:19:01,960 --> 01:18:59,730
consciously trying to move something but

1743
01:19:05,870 --> 01:19:01,970
you know sometimes we get fallout

1744
01:19:12,709 --> 01:19:08,419
she draw what I said you don't drive do

1745
01:19:14,510 --> 01:19:12,719
you not after I work honestly if I'm

1746
01:19:17,149 --> 01:19:14,520
working for a couple of hours I will not

1747
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:17,159
get in the car to drive otherwise yes ya

1748
01:19:22,010 --> 01:19:20,610
know cuz I'm not working where's my

1749
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:22,020
heart my energy [\h__\h] because what

1750
01:19:25,939 --> 01:19:23,760
happens is and this actually happened to

1751
01:19:29,390 --> 01:19:25,949
me years ago which is why I gave up

1752
01:19:31,610 --> 01:19:29,400
driving after i was working somewhere

1753
01:19:33,530 --> 01:19:31,620
doing a lecture and the lecture ended up

1754
01:19:36,379 --> 01:19:33,540
really late and i was in new york on the

1755
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:36,389
parkway it was a lie one or two in the

1756
01:19:41,209 --> 01:19:39,090
morning and i saw this wonderful native

1757
01:19:42,890 --> 01:19:41,219
american walking across the block white

1758
01:19:45,729 --> 01:19:42,900
but i didn't see where the car in front

1759
01:19:48,890 --> 01:19:45,739
of me was and I jammed on the brake

1760
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:48,900
unfortunately a couple of guys behind me

1761
01:19:53,090 --> 01:19:50,730
you know there would have been closer in

1762
01:19:55,399 --> 01:19:53,100
the car for some reason they didn't see

1763
01:19:59,090 --> 01:19:55,409
the dead person the Native Americans oh

1764
01:20:00,950 --> 01:19:59,100
yeah you know but they were far behind

1765
01:20:03,740 --> 01:20:00,960
me because it happened to be about one

1766
01:20:06,169 --> 01:20:03,750
or two in the morning so it didn't cause

1767
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:06,179
a problem but it might have so after

1768
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:08,010
that I just stopped driving after I work

1769
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:11,610
yeah yeah what I had yeah yeah I care

1770
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:14,730
for Native American good I I knew this

1771
01:20:20,300 --> 01:20:17,130
one fellow who was a psychic healer in

1772
01:20:22,399 --> 01:20:20,310
fact I I talked to John Lennon and Yoko

1773
01:20:25,459 --> 01:20:22,409
Ono on the telephone that's going back a

1774
01:20:27,709 --> 01:20:25,469
long time ago Michelle this fella this

1775
01:20:30,919 --> 01:20:27,719
fellow had been written up in the the

1776
01:20:32,810 --> 01:20:30,929
newspaper his name is Dean craft I just

1777
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:32,820
found out he actually died like a year

1778
01:20:36,979 --> 01:20:34,770
and a half or two years ago I went to

1779
01:20:39,410 --> 01:20:36,989
his wedding I went to his wedding and I

1780
01:20:41,300 --> 01:20:39,420
was his publicist actually paid

1781
01:20:43,910 --> 01:20:41,310
publicist for a while I had my own

1782
01:20:45,379 --> 01:20:43,920
public relations company and he was

1783
01:20:46,939 --> 01:20:45,389
getting very well known he actually had

1784
01:20:49,700 --> 01:20:46,949
clients and they were paying money and

1785
01:20:51,830 --> 01:20:49,710
he was doing lectures and even I think

1786
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:51,840
he did some experiments by me Maimonides

1787
01:20:57,260 --> 01:20:55,440
dream lab or something anyway I I was

1788
01:20:58,939 --> 01:20:57,270
over his house one day and I think his

1789
01:21:02,300 --> 01:20:58,949
father was in the room in my associate

1790
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:02,310
Harold silcoon was there and he had a

1791
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:05,010
pen in his hand and after we had a

1792
01:21:09,649 --> 01:21:06,960
conversation I know that maybe lasted a

1793
01:21:14,959 --> 01:21:09,659
half an hour so he tossed the pen on the

1794
01:21:17,810 --> 01:21:14,969
floor and moved his hands behind it or

1795
01:21:19,820 --> 01:21:17,820
in front of it and without touching the

1796
01:21:23,780 --> 01:21:19,830
pen it followed the path

1797
01:21:25,070 --> 01:21:23,790
of his of his fingers he didn't I'm sure

1798
01:21:27,230 --> 01:21:25,080
he didn't have a stranger you know a

1799
01:21:30,500 --> 01:21:27,240
wire or anything like that attached to

1800
01:21:32,420 --> 01:21:30,510
it now uh John Lennon the course was

1801
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:32,430
always fascinated with UFOs II and his

1802
01:21:37,850 --> 01:21:35,130
own UFO sighting which is described in

1803
01:21:39,650 --> 01:21:37,860
our book Shirley MacLaine meets the

1804
01:21:42,500 --> 01:21:39,660
Palladian switch just came out it's a

1805
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:42,510
celebrity UFO encounters a book it's

1806
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:45,210
only bit about out about a week but John

1807
01:21:49,910 --> 01:21:46,890
Lennon of course had a UFO sighting even

1808
01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:49,920
wrote about it on road lyrics for one of

1809
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:53,490
his songs strange days indeed I think

1810
01:21:57,530 --> 01:21:56,010
the song is but anyway he was fascinated

1811
01:22:00,320 --> 01:21:57,540
with the he was afraid of Uri Geller

1812
01:22:03,110 --> 01:22:00,330
stewing and was fascinated with UFOs in

1813
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:03,120
the paranormal and all and dean crest

1814
01:22:08,540 --> 01:22:06,330
was over his apartment when they lived

1815
01:22:09,980 --> 01:22:08,550
in the Dakota and according to John

1816
01:22:13,070 --> 01:22:09,990
Lennon I have the notes on this here

1817
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:13,080
somewhere adine a craft passed his hand

1818
01:22:17,330 --> 01:22:15,360
over the candy dish that was on the

1819
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:17,340
coffee table and a couple of hard

1820
01:22:21,500 --> 01:22:19,770
candies kind of rolled out and went

1821
01:22:23,300 --> 01:22:21,510
across the coffee table and fell onto

1822
01:22:25,370 --> 01:22:23,310
the floor I mean that's one of the

1823
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:25,380
reasons that we took him on as a as a

1824
01:22:30,740 --> 01:22:28,290
client because he did seem to have these

1825
01:22:32,260 --> 01:22:30,750
uncanny ability not only to heal there's

1826
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:32,270
certain people but also they have these

1827
01:22:41,390 --> 01:22:35,970
paranormal experiences all right next

1828
01:22:43,700 --> 01:22:41,400
term here numerology okay well that's a

1829
01:22:45,950 --> 01:22:43,710
very ancient system and it's using

1830
01:22:49,580 --> 01:22:45,960
numbers whether it's your birthday or

1831
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:49,590
the year or are sometimes actually they

1832
01:22:55,250 --> 01:22:52,770
use numbers connected to the alphabet so

1833
01:22:57,770 --> 01:22:55,260
that it connects to your name and it's a

1834
01:22:59,750 --> 01:22:57,780
way of predicting what's going to come

1835
01:23:02,360 --> 01:22:59,760
up in the future what's going on with

1836
01:23:06,260 --> 01:23:02,370
you now it's according to the numbers

1837
01:23:10,130 --> 01:23:06,270
however there are some fields like

1838
01:23:13,300 --> 01:23:10,140
numerology palmistry and astrology

1839
01:23:16,820 --> 01:23:13,310
they're considered more of a science and

1840
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:16,830
then after that if somebody psychic they

1841
01:23:21,470 --> 01:23:19,290
add in their intuitive abilities and the

1842
01:23:23,870 --> 01:23:21,480
reason it's considered more of a science

1843
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,880
is because it's more sexual as an

1844
01:23:28,370 --> 01:23:25,440
example with astrology and with

1845
01:23:30,650 --> 01:23:28,380
numerology once you know the numerology

1846
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:30,660
you know what the numbers relate to then

1847
01:23:36,590 --> 01:23:33,330
you just look up the meanings same thing

1848
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:36,600
with astrology you have shorts so with

1849
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:38,370
numerology you have a different type of

1850
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:40,890
torts and astrology but it still comes

1851
01:23:44,570 --> 01:23:42,930
down to pretty much the same thing they

1852
01:23:47,300 --> 01:23:44,580
look at it as the vibration of the

1853
01:23:50,300 --> 01:23:47,310
numbers connect to you as an example

1854
01:23:53,660 --> 01:23:50,310
with somebody's birthday if their

1855
01:23:56,750 --> 01:23:53,670
birthday has say a lot of tues in it

1856
01:23:59,300 --> 01:23:56,760
like februari whatever if it has a lot

1857
01:24:01,310 --> 01:23:59,310
of to the tendency for the person is to

1858
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:01,320
be very good dealing with other people

1859
01:24:07,550 --> 01:24:04,410
and they tend to be very good counselors

1860
01:24:09,860 --> 01:24:07,560
teachers people along that line rather

1861
01:24:14,150 --> 01:24:09,870
than somebody that wants to work all by

1862
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:14,160
themselves and say run a business so it

1863
01:24:18,500 --> 01:24:16,130
correlates but it's more a matter of

1864
01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:18,510
science and the reason they say it like

1865
01:24:24,350 --> 01:24:20,910
that is because and all metaphysics

1866
01:24:26,630 --> 01:24:24,360
happens to be based on science they look

1867
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:26,640
at it as its cause and effect so they're

1868
01:24:33,260 --> 01:24:29,610
looking at it as if you repeat the same

1869
01:24:35,420 --> 01:24:33,270
situation hundreds of times and you

1870
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:35,430
always get the same result you know

1871
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:38,490
science then they start passing on the

1872
01:24:43,340 --> 01:24:40,050
knowledge and that's the same way that

1873
01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:43,350
the paranormal world works it's the

1874
01:24:48,590 --> 01:24:45,510
oldest science magic is really the

1875
01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:48,600
oldest signs like alchemy little

1876
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:50,400
chemistry as an example chemistry came

1877
01:24:56,810 --> 01:24:53,130
out of alchemy physics actually came out

1878
01:24:58,580 --> 01:24:56,820
of metaphysics yeah so it's considered

1879
01:25:00,770 --> 01:24:58,590
assigns it snowing the numbers in the

1880
01:25:02,990 --> 01:25:00,780
vibrations and the frequency of how it

1881
01:25:06,020 --> 01:25:03,000
relates to the individual is the

1882
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:06,030
situation well you know Maria one of the

1883
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:08,850
books you wrote that we publishes secret

1884
01:25:15,980 --> 01:25:12,210
magical elixirs of life and that reminds

1885
01:25:21,260 --> 01:25:15,990
me you mentioned that alchemy count

1886
01:25:24,770 --> 01:25:21,270
saint-germain do you know who he was of

1887
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:24,780
course Thank You menos get to the violet

1888
01:25:32,150 --> 01:25:28,080
flame when we talk about ittle bit yeah

1889
01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:32,160
yeah absolutely how he's what he's what

1890
01:25:38,450 --> 01:25:34,490
he's one of the the most fascinating

1891
01:25:40,250 --> 01:25:38,460
characters in all of occultism next to

1892
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:40,260
maybe John D and that'll be the next

1893
01:25:46,590 --> 01:25:43,410
character right because basically you

1894
01:25:49,140 --> 01:25:46,600
know he was very very heavy into alchemy

1895
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:49,150
and very very knowledgeable and again we

1896
01:25:54,180 --> 01:25:50,890
look at the science because it's cause

1897
01:25:56,370 --> 01:25:54,190
an effect and he was also connected to

1898
01:25:59,160 --> 01:25:56,380
what they call the violet flame because

1899
01:26:01,560 --> 01:25:59,170
he felt that if you're visualizing the

1900
01:26:04,770 --> 01:26:01,570
violet flame around you and going

1901
01:26:06,780 --> 01:26:04,780
through you it was cleansing energy it's

1902
01:26:09,930 --> 01:26:06,790
very high energies connected to your

1903
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:09,940
crown chakra and they look at it as when

1904
01:26:14,250 --> 01:26:12,610
you're running that violet flame through

1905
01:26:16,620 --> 01:26:14,260
you and around you it's a cleansing

1906
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:16,630
energy because they literally look at it

1907
01:26:22,140 --> 01:26:19,600
as a flame that it burns away everything

1908
01:26:25,110 --> 01:26:22,150
that is blocking or stopping you from

1909
01:26:26,850 --> 01:26:25,120
getting ahead in your life and he was

1910
01:26:30,060 --> 01:26:26,860
one of the first people that talked

1911
01:26:33,390 --> 01:26:30,070
about the violet flame and how it

1912
01:26:36,660 --> 01:26:33,400
affects everybody and what you can do

1913
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:36,670
consciously to raise that energy or to

1914
01:26:40,980 --> 01:26:38,530
do a meditation with the violet flame

1915
01:26:42,210 --> 01:26:40,990
it's going to get rid of the blocks that

1916
01:26:44,780 --> 01:26:42,220
are slowing you down in your life

1917
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:44,790
whether it's physical emotional mental

1918
01:26:52,470 --> 01:26:49,090
but he was very very well known in the

1919
01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:52,480
paranormal field well he he was he was

1920
01:26:58,890 --> 01:26:56,080
friends with the queens and royalty and

1921
01:27:01,080 --> 01:26:58,900
the funny thing was he would disappear

1922
01:27:03,810 --> 01:27:01,090
for it you know several decades and then

1923
01:27:05,700 --> 01:27:03,820
he would show up again he's believed to

1924
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:05,710
be over five or six hundred years old

1925
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:08,050
and the rumor has it that he was also

1926
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:09,850
there at the signing of the Declaration

1927
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:14,800
of Independence but hey well they do say

1928
01:27:21,060 --> 01:27:16,810
that that flame takes care of a lot of

1929
01:27:23,940 --> 01:27:21,070
different things well no we have he was

1930
01:27:26,100 --> 01:27:23,950
very well known though for being able to

1931
01:27:28,860 --> 01:27:26,110
work with alchemy and that's part of

1932
01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:28,870
alchemy is longevity well also too I

1933
01:27:35,070 --> 01:27:31,840
guess he had he was like by the the high

1934
01:27:36,870 --> 01:27:35,080
courtesans because he he was all oh I

1935
01:27:39,570 --> 01:27:36,880
guess he was kind of like the Liberace

1936
01:27:42,780 --> 01:27:39,580
of his day he was always decked out he

1937
01:27:46,230 --> 01:27:42,790
didn't have he didn't say well not that

1938
01:27:48,270 --> 01:27:46,240
okay he didn't he didn't he didn't seem

1939
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:48,280
to have he didn't see how much they

1940
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:51,250
didn't seem to have a job right right

1941
01:27:57,810 --> 01:27:55,360
problem he traveled all over Europe he

1942
01:28:00,420 --> 01:27:57,820
spoke 20 have a lot of his bills in his

1943
01:28:02,190 --> 01:28:00,430
travel but they also like to because

1944
01:28:04,710 --> 01:28:02,200
he had all this a jewelry and I guess

1945
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:04,720
that he did give some of the day away I

1946
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:06,850
know I would certainly like to have

1947
01:28:12,630 --> 01:28:08,410
a-you know something from counseling

1948
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:12,640
germania in my collection tonight that

1949
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:14,530
would that that would certainly be a you

1950
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:16,690
know collector's piece but them we had a

1951
01:28:20,250 --> 01:28:18,970
psychic who's now deceased very well

1952
01:28:23,850 --> 01:28:20,260
known and we've published a lot of his

1953
01:28:26,610 --> 01:28:23,860
book William Alexander oribello and he

1954
01:28:28,830 --> 01:28:26,620
he he gave a workshop one time I think

1955
01:28:30,540 --> 01:28:28,840
in Philadelphia we were and we have a

1956
01:28:32,340 --> 01:28:30,550
psychic fair and in some workshops in

1957
01:28:36,210 --> 01:28:32,350
after what people could sign up for and

1958
01:28:40,380 --> 01:28:36,220
he channeled uh count saint-germain and

1959
01:28:42,930 --> 01:28:40,390
when we went and looked at the the VHS

1960
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:42,940
that was the the video at the moment

1961
01:28:48,930 --> 01:28:45,850
looked at the VHS tape there he was

1962
01:28:50,460 --> 01:28:48,940
surrounded in this violet light and that

1963
01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:50,470
you know I I mean I was in the room when

1964
01:28:55,140 --> 01:28:52,510
this was going on there was no you know

1965
01:28:57,390 --> 01:28:55,150
there was no it was my camera there was

1966
01:28:59,430 --> 01:28:57,400
no gels on the camera there was no weird

1967
01:29:01,590 --> 01:28:59,440
lighting in the ceiling or anything in

1968
01:29:03,450 --> 01:29:01,600
fact we still have them we put that out

1969
01:29:06,270 --> 01:29:03,460
on the DVD and that was quite a job to

1970
01:29:08,940 --> 01:29:06,280
do because those VHS tapes were not very

1971
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:08,950
good you know quality and we didn't

1972
01:29:13,470 --> 01:29:10,810
shoot it in a you know some fancy

1973
01:29:14,910 --> 01:29:13,480
Hollywood the studio I had the hit I had

1974
01:29:16,830 --> 01:29:14,920
the tribe you know holding onto the

1975
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:16,840
tripod for dear life that it didn't fall

1976
01:29:22,590 --> 01:29:19,450
over your tripod always lost a leg

1977
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:22,600
somewhere along the line but I I you

1978
01:29:27,300 --> 01:29:25,330
know for sure count saint-germain is to

1979
01:29:30,180 --> 01:29:27,310
me is a real character so how about John

1980
01:29:32,340 --> 01:29:30,190
D and well actually just one more thing

1981
01:29:34,740 --> 01:29:32,350
with saint-germain I teach a lot of

1982
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:34,750
classes or one of them is on the violet

1983
01:29:40,250 --> 01:29:36,730
flame and we go through a meditation so

1984
01:29:42,690 --> 01:29:40,260
that everybody can have that feeling of

1985
01:29:44,850 --> 01:29:42,700
energy and of the cleansing and it's

1986
01:29:46,980 --> 01:29:44,860
amazing how many people actually feel

1987
01:29:49,050 --> 01:29:46,990
like they have like little electrical

1988
01:29:50,790 --> 01:29:49,060
energy going through them you know

1989
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:50,800
because we do get feedback some people

1990
01:29:54,930 --> 01:29:53,410
feel that some people don't but it works

1991
01:29:57,390 --> 01:29:54,940
whether you feel it or not but it's

1992
01:30:01,740 --> 01:29:57,400
amazing how many people actually feel

1993
01:30:03,510 --> 01:30:01,750
that you know oh and by the way I was

1994
01:30:07,710 --> 01:30:03,520
going to mention we're talking earlier

1995
01:30:11,250 --> 01:30:07,720
about Tesla yes remember I was going to

1996
01:30:13,500 --> 01:30:11,260
mention that Kessler people just don't

1997
01:30:13,979 --> 01:30:13,510
understand how much he actually did in

1998
01:30:16,410 --> 01:30:13,989
the power

1999
01:30:19,709 --> 01:30:16,420
normal field besides everything else

2000
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:19,719
that he did and one of the reasons I was

2001
01:30:24,330 --> 01:30:22,090
telling you that I really love Tesla is

2002
01:30:26,549 --> 01:30:24,340
because he was very analytical in the

2003
01:30:30,149 --> 01:30:26,559
scientist but he was also very spiritual

2004
01:30:34,770 --> 01:30:30,159
and he's the one that did the place

2005
01:30:38,910 --> 01:30:34,780
that's correct the Tesla played in every

2006
01:30:41,149 --> 01:30:38,920
place yes we do now in fact one way one

2007
01:30:44,399 --> 01:30:41,159
of the other hosts on the PSN network

2008
01:30:46,290 --> 01:30:44,409
Tim Schwartz was on ancient aliens last

2009
01:30:48,750 --> 01:30:46,300
night that the programmer the episode

2010
01:30:51,060 --> 01:30:48,760
was on Tesla and of course he's written

2011
01:30:54,419 --> 01:30:51,070
several books on the topic including

2012
01:30:56,430 --> 01:30:54,429
lost Reynolds Nikola Tesla and I you

2013
01:30:58,470 --> 01:30:56,440
know a number of books which are

2014
01:31:00,089 --> 01:30:58,480
available on Amazon and so they were

2015
01:31:03,359 --> 01:31:00,099
interviewing him because he's one of the

2016
01:31:05,100 --> 01:31:03,369
experts on the on the subject and the

2017
01:31:07,950 --> 01:31:05,110
reason I brought it up actually was

2018
01:31:11,910 --> 01:31:07,960
because the place of violet you know

2019
01:31:15,330 --> 01:31:11,920
from the violet flame connection so the

2020
01:31:17,910 --> 01:31:15,340
g can actually be tested scientifically

2021
01:31:20,370 --> 01:31:17,920
on a vibrational frequency level that it

2022
01:31:23,129 --> 01:31:20,380
gives off a different frequency if you

2023
01:31:25,140 --> 01:31:23,139
may make it exactly the way he said to

2024
01:31:27,779 --> 01:31:25,150
make them because i know the ones that

2025
01:31:29,310 --> 01:31:27,789
you have and i always tell people to get

2026
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:29,320
it from you because you have the real

2027
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:31,690
ones and then people have knockoffs and

2028
01:31:35,399 --> 01:31:33,489
they wonder why the vibration doesn't

2029
01:31:38,069 --> 01:31:35,409
work but they have to have that they

2030
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:38,079
have to have this special symbol that's

2031
01:31:45,839 --> 01:31:41,489
that's stamped into them anyway John Dee

2032
01:31:48,989 --> 01:31:45,849
ok well I find with john d i have an

2033
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:48,999
interest in john d but apparently not as

2034
01:31:57,419 --> 01:31:52,960
much as some other people but i find

2035
01:31:58,950 --> 01:31:57,429
that he was very very positive the lack

2036
01:32:00,870 --> 01:31:58,960
of a better term emotion i think i've

2037
01:32:03,239 --> 01:32:00,880
had to say that he was very very

2038
01:32:06,750 --> 01:32:03,249
positive when he was known as an

2039
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:06,760
extremely heavy well i was going to say

2040
01:32:10,049 --> 01:32:08,530
a heavy hitter but then i was trying to

2041
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:10,059
think of a better word for it in the

2042
01:32:16,470 --> 01:32:14,110
paranormal field and i find he was the

2043
01:32:20,069 --> 01:32:16,480
rams yeah he was known for conjuring up

2044
01:32:22,649 --> 01:32:20,079
angels right but everything and that's a

2045
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:22,659
normal way of dealing and he's the one

2046
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:24,489
that came up with the Enochian language

2047
01:32:29,910 --> 01:32:27,850
of the angels the elf Enochian alphabet

2048
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:29,920
in fact I'm saying will finish him one's

2049
01:32:34,860 --> 01:32:32,530
an occultist because of that plus tuning

2050
01:32:38,190 --> 01:32:34,870
in psychically in the in the book as a

2051
01:32:40,380 --> 01:32:38,200
angel spells that you worked on uh we

2052
01:32:42,300 --> 01:32:40,390
had a lengthy a section in the book on

2053
01:32:44,190 --> 01:32:42,310
the Enochian the language in the

2054
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:44,200
charging symbols and all which is very

2055
01:32:53,750 --> 01:32:46,930
hard for the average person including me

2056
01:33:01,170 --> 01:32:56,130
symbols that the average person could

2057
01:33:03,870 --> 01:33:01,180
use to contact their back directly at

2058
01:33:07,170 --> 01:33:03,880
the party yeah with their guardian angel

2059
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:07,180
and you know my friend Alan Greenfield

2060
01:33:11,310 --> 01:33:08,770
who's been on the show as several times

2061
01:33:15,530 --> 01:33:11,320
here he was on the ground at zero with

2062
01:33:19,590 --> 01:33:15,540
Clyde Lewis and he read one of your

2063
01:33:22,830 --> 01:33:19,600
meter on he recited one of the rituals

2064
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:22,840
from meter on which is the angel of the

2065
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:26,530
whirlwind and you know the next day the

2066
01:33:31,260 --> 01:33:28,930
roof of the radio station where ground

2067
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:31,270
zeroes broadcast blew off and you know

2068
01:33:35,700 --> 01:33:33,970
at first I at first I thought at first I

2069
01:33:37,830 --> 01:33:35,710
thought Clyde was you know telling a

2070
01:33:40,170 --> 01:33:37,840
story because Clyde can go on for you

2071
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:40,180
know 20 or 30 minutes just on one thing

2072
01:33:43,890 --> 01:33:42,130
yeah yeah but I checked it I checked

2073
01:33:46,440 --> 01:33:43,900
that I googled it and sure enough here's

2074
01:33:49,130 --> 01:33:46,450
a video on YouTube early as the roof of

2075
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:49,140
the building sitting in the street ok

2076
01:33:53,340 --> 01:33:51,730
now for any other party yet you gotta

2077
01:33:55,470 --> 01:33:53,350
you gotta work you gotta watch a memory

2078
01:33:57,480 --> 01:33:55,480
with some of those you know angel spells

2079
01:34:00,000 --> 01:33:57,490
well you know what it is it's really

2080
01:34:03,660 --> 01:34:00,010
funny the way I asked she got them was

2081
01:34:05,700 --> 01:34:03,670
sooo trance because between combination

2082
01:34:08,130 --> 01:34:05,710
of meditation to get into the trends

2083
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:08,140
that's really how I got the symbols and

2084
01:34:13,860 --> 01:34:10,930
the symbols basically I just saw as a

2085
01:34:16,140 --> 01:34:13,870
vision and then the rest of it really

2086
01:34:18,780 --> 01:34:16,150
just came to me the colors and whatever

2087
01:34:22,590 --> 01:34:18,790
matched with it you know the symbols so

2088
01:34:25,260 --> 01:34:22,600
if you stick exactly to what it says you

2089
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:25,270
know you actually calling in off angels

2090
01:34:29,970 --> 01:34:27,970
and angels on a very specific level and

2091
01:34:32,790 --> 01:34:29,980
really you're not going to find that

2092
01:34:34,590 --> 01:34:32,800
anywhere else because I got it as direct

2093
01:34:36,990 --> 01:34:34,600
information it's not something I looked

2094
01:34:40,590 --> 01:34:37,000
up you know it came to me specifically

2095
01:34:41,580 --> 01:34:40,600
and I always put in books before you do

2096
01:34:45,330 --> 01:34:41,590
anything like

2097
01:34:47,070 --> 01:34:45,340
you always put up some form of psychic

2098
01:34:49,530 --> 01:34:47,080
self-defense some form of protection

2099
01:34:52,530 --> 01:34:49,540
because even if you're calling in a

2100
01:34:55,050 --> 01:34:52,540
positive angelic fourth you're opening a

2101
01:34:57,089 --> 01:34:55,060
portal or a gateway and when you open

2102
01:34:59,040 --> 01:34:57,099
the portal even if you're asking for a

2103
01:35:01,709 --> 01:34:59,050
positive angel is an example or a

2104
01:35:03,570 --> 01:35:01,719
positive spirit to come to you you can

2105
01:35:06,089 --> 01:35:03,580
have an open portal you don't know what

2106
01:35:08,370 --> 01:35:06,099
you're talking along yeah that's like

2107
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:08,380
everybody was calling in angels for a

2108
01:35:13,290 --> 01:35:11,170
while and they still are but when you're

2109
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:13,300
just calling in an angel in general

2110
01:35:16,649 --> 01:35:15,130
people forget there are fallen angels

2111
01:35:18,750 --> 01:35:16,659
you don't know what you're getting if

2112
01:35:23,220 --> 01:35:18,760
you're not calling it in correctly or by

2113
01:35:26,220 --> 01:35:23,230
name so how do you how do you protect

2114
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:26,230
yourself from getting a a fallen angel

2115
01:35:32,399 --> 01:35:30,130
well she has specific instructions well

2116
01:35:34,620 --> 01:35:32,409
first of all there's really a very heavy

2117
01:35:38,189 --> 01:35:34,630
technique but honestly it takes a couple

2118
01:35:41,070 --> 01:35:38,199
of hours to actually teach that but on a

2119
01:35:42,870 --> 01:35:41,080
minimal level what works is if you put

2120
01:35:46,700 --> 01:35:42,880
out something like as an example if you

2121
01:35:49,229 --> 01:35:46,710
focus on say divine power protect me

2122
01:35:51,750 --> 01:35:49,239
okay or whoever you believe in I happen

2123
01:35:54,359 --> 01:35:51,760
to believe in God okay but if you sing

2124
01:35:56,459 --> 01:35:54,369
divine power or God or whoever you

2125
01:35:58,919 --> 01:35:56,469
believe in it has to be who you believe

2126
01:36:01,080 --> 01:35:58,929
in as your source because otherwise the

2127
01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:01,090
energy doesn't match your frequency and

2128
01:36:06,660 --> 01:36:03,610
it will work okay so whatever label you

2129
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:06,670
use as an example you would say God

2130
01:36:10,709 --> 01:36:08,650
protect me and you're saying who your

2131
01:36:13,290 --> 01:36:10,719
source is you're telling your source

2132
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:13,300
what you want done but you have to say

2133
01:36:17,580 --> 01:36:15,010
it with a lot of respect and you have to

2134
01:36:19,530 --> 01:36:17,590
be really serious in your heart when you

2135
01:36:22,830 --> 01:36:19,540
say it or it's truly not going to work

2136
01:36:25,890 --> 01:36:22,840
so on a minimal level that would help

2137
01:36:28,140 --> 01:36:25,900
but you need to do your own technique or

2138
01:36:31,020 --> 01:36:28,150
like I said mine takes a cut pretty much

2139
01:36:34,500 --> 01:36:31,030
it's an all-day class so well it may

2140
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:34,510
also come but definitely thought also to

2141
01:36:40,830 --> 01:36:36,449
Maria if you're if you're using a

2142
01:36:43,729 --> 01:36:40,840
ritualistic altar to do your work you

2143
01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:43,739
can put out what rose petals water in a

2144
01:36:51,180 --> 01:36:48,070
scrying Bowl and of course / no white

2145
01:36:54,600 --> 01:36:51,190
candles right and put sea salt in the

2146
01:36:55,319 --> 01:36:54,610
water that will do that and the scrying

2147
01:36:57,810 --> 01:36:55,329
I love the

2148
01:37:00,389 --> 01:36:57,820
scrying bowls because you can see so

2149
01:37:02,339 --> 01:37:00,399
much in there but for the protection if

2150
01:37:04,379 --> 01:37:02,349
you just put water and rose petals in

2151
01:37:07,109 --> 01:37:04,389
there a little bit sea salt because

2152
01:37:09,810 --> 01:37:07,119
that's a very very ancient technique you

2153
01:37:11,790 --> 01:37:09,820
know it isn't something new and I find

2154
01:37:16,259 --> 01:37:11,800
that I love working with the ancient

2155
01:37:18,659 --> 01:37:16,269
techniques because they're very very

2156
01:37:21,569 --> 01:37:18,669
simple they're very direct and they're

2157
01:37:24,779 --> 01:37:21,579
very powerful they really work and then

2158
01:37:26,939 --> 01:37:24,789
when you have people that updated you

2159
01:37:28,649 --> 01:37:26,949
know when they update ancient systems or

2160
01:37:31,020 --> 01:37:28,659
rituals if they know what they're

2161
01:37:33,449 --> 01:37:31,030
updating its great but a lot of people

2162
01:37:35,310 --> 01:37:33,459
updated because they read something in

2163
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:35,320
one book they mixed it with another book

2164
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:38,320
and they don't realize they're diluting

2165
01:37:42,899 --> 01:37:40,449
it it's not going to work it's like a

2166
01:37:46,109 --> 01:37:42,909
recipe if your great-grandmother had a

2167
01:37:47,849 --> 01:37:46,119
wonderful recipe for something and they

2168
01:37:50,339 --> 01:37:47,859
test it down and everybody sticks

2169
01:37:52,739 --> 01:37:50,349
exactly to the recipe it's going to be

2170
01:37:55,169 --> 01:37:52,749
perfect every time if they keep changing

2171
01:37:58,379 --> 01:37:55,179
it they're going to wander down the road

2172
01:38:01,409 --> 01:37:58,389
why it doesn't taste the same same

2173
01:38:05,939 --> 01:38:01,419
principle that's good point okay

2174
01:38:08,219 --> 01:38:05,949
crystals do they really work yes our

2175
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:08,229
first of all if you look at crystals you

2176
01:38:13,229 --> 01:38:11,050
know gemstones are herbs and oils they

2177
01:38:15,959 --> 01:38:13,239
all work the same way the work on the

2178
01:38:19,049 --> 01:38:15,969
vibrational level and with all of them

2179
01:38:21,540 --> 01:38:19,059
as long as they're within three feet of

2180
01:38:24,119 --> 01:38:21,550
your body they will work for you it

2181
01:38:26,009 --> 01:38:24,129
works as a magnet if it's farther than

2182
01:38:28,829 --> 01:38:26,019
three feet away from you they still work

2183
01:38:30,629 --> 01:38:28,839
there just not attracting to you so they

2184
01:38:33,419 --> 01:38:30,639
will attract positive things they will

2185
01:38:35,939 --> 01:38:33,429
repel negative and think of it more

2186
01:38:38,909 --> 01:38:35,949
literally as a magnet so depending on

2187
01:38:40,919 --> 01:38:38,919
the properties of the gemstone that's

2188
01:38:44,339 --> 01:38:40,929
what it attracts to you so as an example

2189
01:38:47,399 --> 01:38:44,349
if you were using say let's see pyrite

2190
01:38:50,389 --> 01:38:47,409
which is also called fool's gold that

2191
01:38:53,459 --> 01:38:50,399
actually attract finance or the

2192
01:38:57,119 --> 01:38:53,469
opportunity for finance into your life

2193
01:39:00,089 --> 01:38:57,129
oh I'm talking about protection if you

2194
01:39:03,959 --> 01:39:00,099
use the gemstone tiger eye which is a

2195
01:39:06,149 --> 01:39:03,969
brownstone if you use Title I that also

2196
01:39:09,010 --> 01:39:06,159
is a level of protection it just means

2197
01:39:12,030 --> 01:39:09,020
you need to carry it with you

2198
01:39:14,740 --> 01:39:12,040
so as an example if you're using pyrite

2199
01:39:17,230 --> 01:39:14,750
there's an occult law that says likely

2200
01:39:20,590 --> 01:39:17,240
tracks like to the point of carrying

2201
01:39:22,930 --> 01:39:20,600
that is because it looks like gold or if

2202
01:39:24,730 --> 01:39:22,940
you had gold jewelry as an example like

2203
01:39:28,690 --> 01:39:24,740
attracts like so the more you carry

2204
01:39:31,690 --> 01:39:28,700
situations and you know things that have

2205
01:39:33,820 --> 01:39:31,700
value the more you attracted in that's

2206
01:39:36,580 --> 01:39:33,830
like I was at a radio station of the

2207
01:39:38,350 --> 01:39:36,590
KISS FM a couple of years ago and I was

2208
01:39:39,700 --> 01:39:38,360
talking to some of the rappers you know

2209
01:39:42,700 --> 01:39:39,710
the room while you're waiting to go on

2210
01:39:45,310 --> 01:39:42,710
and they really have a lot of gold

2211
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:45,320
chains and the reason they have that is

2212
01:39:51,070 --> 01:39:48,770
that working from a metaphysical point

2213
01:39:53,380 --> 01:39:51,080
they actually look at it as the more you

2214
01:39:54,700 --> 01:39:53,390
have on the more money you attract so

2215
01:39:58,750 --> 01:39:54,710
I'm thinking to myself have to go out

2216
01:40:01,360 --> 01:39:58,760
and get some more gold or learn how to

2217
01:40:04,390 --> 01:40:01,370
wrap one of the other exactly need more

2218
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:04,400
bling but a lot of the new Raptors

2219
01:40:08,580 --> 01:40:06,110
really didn't understand the principle

2220
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:08,590
but it did come from a spiritualist

2221
01:40:13,660 --> 01:40:11,210
church from a spiritualist outlook

2222
01:40:15,970 --> 01:40:13,670
originally that you know the more you

2223
01:40:17,950 --> 01:40:15,980
wear or the more you carried the more

2224
01:40:20,670 --> 01:40:17,960
the tracks but there is vehicle of like

2225
01:40:23,350 --> 01:40:20,680
attracts like which means as an example

2226
01:40:24,820 --> 01:40:23,360
you ever noticed that if you're a

2227
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:24,830
positive person you feel comfortable

2228
01:40:29,380 --> 01:40:27,410
around positive people around up people

2229
01:40:31,170 --> 01:40:29,390
you're not going to feel comfortable

2230
01:40:34,030 --> 01:40:31,180
around people that lie and cheat and

2231
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:34,040
negative if somebody is naked if they're

2232
01:40:38,380 --> 01:40:35,330
not going to feel comfortable around

2233
01:40:40,930 --> 01:40:38,390
positive people you know so you can

2234
01:40:42,310 --> 01:40:40,940
actually watch it it's funny yeah it's

2235
01:40:47,140 --> 01:40:42,320
the secret it's of the laws of

2236
01:40:53,020 --> 01:40:47,150
attraction you know how does how does

2237
01:40:56,830 --> 01:40:53,030
what you do differ from okay you're in a

2238
01:40:59,980 --> 01:40:56,840
cultist is that correct yes okay how

2239
01:41:03,280 --> 01:40:59,990
does that differ from Wicca or

2240
01:41:06,340 --> 01:41:03,290
witchcraft okay um basically they're all

2241
01:41:08,410 --> 01:41:06,350
the same this is the thing a coach just

2242
01:41:10,690 --> 01:41:08,420
means ancient wisdom and hidden

2243
01:41:13,680 --> 01:41:10,700
knowledge it isn't positive and negative

2244
01:41:16,990 --> 01:41:13,690
it's not religion the practitioner is

2245
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:17,000
positive or negative so as an accomplice

2246
01:41:22,629 --> 01:41:19,610
you really use whatever situation or

2247
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:22,639
modality fits what you're working on

2248
01:41:28,540 --> 01:41:25,010
so as an example it doesn't matter if

2249
01:41:31,509 --> 01:41:28,550
it's wicker if it's voodoo because that

2250
01:41:34,540 --> 01:41:31,519
started out as a positive religion you

2251
01:41:37,419 --> 01:41:34,550
know or if you're using European magic

2252
01:41:38,649 --> 01:41:37,429
or macumba or Haitian if as long as

2253
01:41:40,529 --> 01:41:38,659
you're working on the positive side

2254
01:41:43,659 --> 01:41:40,539
you're going to get positive results

2255
01:41:45,729 --> 01:41:43,669
okay but a cult is a cult it doesn't

2256
01:41:47,139 --> 01:41:45,739
matter which modality do you use you

2257
01:41:48,850 --> 01:41:47,149
just have to actually know what you're

2258
01:41:52,149 --> 01:41:48,860
doing because they're all ancient and

2259
01:41:54,159 --> 01:41:52,159
pretty much if you really look at all

2260
01:41:56,830 --> 01:41:54,169
the modalities they all have the same

2261
01:41:59,500 --> 01:41:56,840
base as an example were saying like

2262
01:42:03,189 --> 01:41:59,510
attracts like every single modality

2263
01:42:05,649 --> 01:42:03,199
believes that so the base is the same

2264
01:42:07,839 --> 01:42:05,659
it's just really a preference it's like

2265
01:42:11,739 --> 01:42:07,849
years ago I was doing the reading for

2266
01:42:15,310 --> 01:42:11,749
lady and she was actually from I think

2267
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:15,320
Barbados and everything I got for her in

2268
01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:16,489
the reading that had to do with

2269
01:42:21,790 --> 01:42:19,209
metaphysics you know with a cult

2270
01:42:24,429 --> 01:42:21,800
connected her to England which actually

2271
01:42:26,139 --> 01:42:24,439
didn't make any logical sense she

2272
01:42:28,419 --> 01:42:26,149
actually told me she was from Barbados

2273
01:42:32,229 --> 01:42:28,429
before we started England made no sense

2274
01:42:34,569 --> 01:42:32,239
and after we were done with the reading

2275
01:42:36,549 --> 01:42:34,579
she was laughing because I kept saying I

2276
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:36,559
don't know why England and she was

2277
01:42:41,020 --> 01:42:38,449
laughing so she said most of her family

2278
01:42:43,060 --> 01:42:41,030
for generations happened to be from

2279
01:42:46,179 --> 01:42:43,070
England and they worked on the occult

2280
01:42:48,699 --> 01:42:46,189
side on the positive side with ministry

2281
01:42:51,429 --> 01:42:48,709
and with shamanism and other modalities

2282
01:42:54,639 --> 01:42:51,439
but they were all from England and she

2283
01:43:00,040 --> 01:42:54,649
was the first generation in Barbados so

2284
01:43:03,609 --> 01:43:00,050
you never know right oh wow what how did

2285
01:43:07,899 --> 01:43:03,619
you learn okay so you do you utilize

2286
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:07,909
like ruin stones a tarot cards regular

2287
01:43:14,290 --> 01:43:11,090
deck of cards numerology how did you

2288
01:43:17,500 --> 01:43:14,300
learn all this well some of it I

2289
01:43:20,830 --> 01:43:17,510
actually learned with Hungarian

2290
01:43:22,989 --> 01:43:20,840
shamanism okay and by the way I'm a

2291
01:43:25,959 --> 01:43:22,999
shaman so hungry but I'm also a shaman

2292
01:43:28,870 --> 01:43:25,969
with the Tuscarora tribe in North

2293
01:43:31,149 --> 01:43:28,880
Carolina I'm an honorary member and it's

2294
01:43:34,209 --> 01:43:31,159
funny they're always teasing me that I'm

2295
01:43:35,890 --> 01:43:34,219
the first Hungarian Native American

2296
01:43:39,860 --> 01:43:35,900
because there's no such thing

2297
01:43:42,740 --> 01:43:39,870
either one or the other but a lot of it

2298
01:43:45,790 --> 01:43:42,750
I learned through shamanism from you

2299
01:43:48,500 --> 01:43:45,800
know from Hungary and a lot of it I

2300
01:43:50,900 --> 01:43:48,510
learned two books just like everybody

2301
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:50,910
else but most of it I really learned

2302
01:43:56,060 --> 01:43:53,610
through visions and meditation they just

2303
01:43:59,750 --> 01:43:56,070
come to me and then the more I do it and

2304
01:44:01,460 --> 01:43:59,760
I realize that they work then I can

2305
01:44:03,950 --> 01:44:01,470
actually work with it for other people

2306
01:44:05,660 --> 01:44:03,960
but it takes years that you get to the

2307
01:44:07,820 --> 01:44:05,670
point where you feel like okay it really

2308
01:44:11,060 --> 01:44:07,830
works every time I do this particular

2309
01:44:14,630 --> 01:44:11,070
formula now Yuri you read you've worked

2310
01:44:17,690 --> 01:44:14,640
on this book on the reading the playing

2311
01:44:19,850 --> 01:44:17,700
cards but you also read tarot now how

2312
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:19,860
did it two of those differ that did the

2313
01:44:24,860 --> 01:44:22,290
or did the tarot cards where they

2314
01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:24,870
derived from a regular deck of cards or

2315
01:44:29,180 --> 01:44:26,250
was it the other way around or is there

2316
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:29,190
no connection at all no they're actually

2317
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:33,330
connected the tarot card has a minor

2318
01:44:39,110 --> 01:44:36,690
arcana which basically connects to your

2319
01:44:41,900 --> 01:44:39,120
everyday life it's telling you about

2320
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:41,910
your job your love life you know what's

2321
01:44:46,580 --> 01:44:44,130
going on in your life on in the mundane

2322
01:44:49,130 --> 01:44:46,590
or the physical plane okay and the

2323
01:44:51,470 --> 01:44:49,140
hierarch anna tells you more about your

2324
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:51,480
goals your spiritual levels what

2325
01:44:57,260 --> 01:44:55,110
direction to go in what path now the

2326
01:44:59,660 --> 01:44:57,270
court the playing card so actually the

2327
01:45:02,330 --> 01:44:59,670
lower Arcana that's what they came from

2328
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:02,340
so if you know the lower I can and the

2329
01:45:09,050 --> 01:45:06,930
panel back you can read the cause now so

2330
01:45:11,510 --> 01:45:09,060
time they've readjusted a lot of the

2331
01:45:14,930 --> 01:45:11,520
basic laws so that they also have their

2332
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:14,940
own leaning so now it's a combination of

2333
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:18,930
the two well now what with the playing

2334
01:45:25,970 --> 01:45:22,650
cards you've actually derived spells you

2335
01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:25,980
could use the cards to perform psychic

2336
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:27,690
spells of health spells with them oh

2337
01:45:33,500 --> 01:45:31,290
definitely basically any tool that you

2338
01:45:36,250 --> 01:45:33,510
have whether its ruins or the cause or

2339
01:45:39,140 --> 01:45:36,260
tea leaves anything that you have that

2340
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:39,150
connected on the energetic level to

2341
01:45:43,850 --> 01:45:40,890
psychic information and basically

2342
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:43,860
they're all just focus because we don't

2343
01:45:48,620 --> 01:45:45,330
actually need the tools that give you

2344
01:45:49,430 --> 01:45:48,630
that extra focus and I find that it

2345
01:45:51,140 --> 01:45:49,440
looks like what the rule

2346
01:45:55,310 --> 01:45:51,150
as an example they just give me more

2347
01:45:57,229 --> 01:45:55,320
detail but when you're using the cards

2348
01:45:58,790 --> 01:45:57,239
you can actually as long as you know

2349
01:46:01,880 --> 01:45:58,800
what the cards mean and it's in the book

2350
01:46:03,979 --> 01:46:01,890
you can actually perform spells to bring

2351
01:46:06,770 --> 01:46:03,989
in positive things into your life and to

2352
01:46:08,900 --> 01:46:06,780
help you and the way I got most of it

2353
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:08,910
again I get most of my information very

2354
01:46:14,030 --> 01:46:11,489
direct and that's why you know sometimes

2355
01:46:15,170 --> 01:46:14,040
we you and I laugh because they're not

2356
01:46:17,410 --> 01:46:15,180
going to be written anywhere else

2357
01:46:20,720 --> 01:46:17,420
because I got it two visions and through

2358
01:46:22,790 --> 01:46:20,730
meditation sometimes but a lot of times

2359
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:22,800
I just know there's no other way to put

2360
01:46:27,650 --> 01:46:25,410
that or with the cards I was actually

2361
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:27,660
seeing them in layouts and how to put

2362
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:29,370
them and what to do with them and then I

2363
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:30,810
just have to remember to write it down

2364
01:46:35,870 --> 01:46:33,690
quick before it disappears on me and I

2365
01:46:38,930 --> 01:46:35,880
know it was a while to make sure that it

2366
01:46:41,570 --> 01:46:38,940
actually works before I would tell

2367
01:46:44,780 --> 01:46:41,580
anybody else about it well I have to say

2368
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:44,790
Maria that as far as i know you are the

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01:46:50,990 --> 01:46:47,610
most knowledgeable person on the over

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01:46:53,300 --> 01:46:51,000
all aspects of the of the occult I mean

2371
01:46:56,209 --> 01:46:53,310
most people have this have their

2372
01:46:58,520 --> 01:46:56,219
specialties but you have a good

2373
01:47:01,459 --> 01:46:58,530
background in all of this and it

2374
01:47:03,200 --> 01:47:01,469
certainly has to be intuitive it's not

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01:47:06,920 --> 01:47:03,210
something you know that you can just

2376
01:47:08,930 --> 01:47:06,930
pick up from a books you know it has to

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01:47:12,170 --> 01:47:08,940
be something that comes to you naturally

2378
01:47:15,590 --> 01:47:12,180
now we're coming we're closing in on the

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01:47:17,510 --> 01:47:15,600
the hour and i do want to give you the

2380
01:47:18,820 --> 01:47:17,520
opportunity to tell our listeners where

2381
01:47:21,979 --> 01:47:18,830
they could get in touch with you and

2382
01:47:24,350 --> 01:47:21,989
find out about your services but I do

2383
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:24,360
just want to tell the listeners also

2384
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:26,610
that I'm making a very rare public

2385
01:47:31,820 --> 01:47:29,130
appearance I will be at the Reunion

2386
01:47:35,270 --> 01:47:31,830
meeting the 51st reunion of the national

2387
01:47:41,209 --> 01:47:35,280
UFO Congress which is being held in

2388
01:47:44,090 --> 01:47:41,219
Cleveland Ohio jun 19 to the 22nd so

2389
01:47:46,340 --> 01:47:44,100
anybody's around in Ohio or West

2390
01:47:48,650 --> 01:47:46,350
Virginia or you want to take a little

2391
01:47:51,350 --> 01:47:48,660
trip I'm I'm taking the train myself

2392
01:47:53,990 --> 01:47:51,360
it's about 14 hours from Manhattan here

2393
01:47:57,070 --> 01:47:54,000
but I love the Train and I like to look

2394
01:48:01,220 --> 01:47:57,080
outside the window and it should be

2395
01:48:03,050 --> 01:48:01,230
enjoyable and there's no you know people

2396
01:48:09,710 --> 01:48:03,060
yes

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01:48:11,210 --> 01:48:09,720
you I'm just thinking about it well why

2398
01:48:13,130 --> 01:48:11,220
did you cause Gary I was given her

2399
01:48:14,930 --> 01:48:13,140
approval that's all maybe i will Oliver

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01:48:16,790 --> 01:48:14,940
I would like you to do I would like you

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01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:16,800
to do that any anyway that'll be

2402
01:48:23,300 --> 01:48:19,050
delighted I see how far as well you

2403
01:48:25,340 --> 01:48:23,310
gotta come from Miami you know I was

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01:48:27,290 --> 01:48:25,350
gonna go I was gonna see I was gonna go

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01:48:29,540 --> 01:48:27,300
see my friend Charlotte who lives in

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01:48:31,550 --> 01:48:29,550
Tucson by train actually I would

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01:48:37,400 --> 01:48:31,560
continue on from Cleveland to Tucson

2408
01:48:39,770 --> 01:48:37,410
it's a 59 our trip well no I'm not I'm

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01:48:42,500 --> 01:48:39,780
not going i just said you know i do not

2410
01:48:44,810 --> 01:48:42,510
do it some other time that and then

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01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:44,820
coming back you gotta add the fifty nine

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01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:47,130
hours plus the 13 hours or something

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01:48:53,000 --> 01:48:49,170
every day plus it from New York to

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01:48:55,970 --> 01:48:53,010
Colorado I did do that once yes that's

2415
01:48:58,580 --> 01:48:55,980
like days yeah three days yeah yeah but

2416
01:49:00,140 --> 01:48:58,590
is it worse for you can get to you can

2417
01:49:03,290 --> 01:49:00,150
get to Denver like I'm on the highway

2418
01:49:04,910 --> 01:49:03,300
but you can't go between likely you know

2419
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:04,920
there's too many there's mountains it's

2420
01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:06,930
what it is and the the tunnels you know

2421
01:49:10,250 --> 01:49:08,400
they spent billions of dollars to put

2422
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:10,260
tunnels through the the mountains there

2423
01:49:15,740 --> 01:49:12,810
and it's slow if you try to drive it

2424
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:15,750
it's a slow is taking the train maybe

2425
01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:17,730
even slower because I I tried driving

2426
01:49:22,970 --> 01:49:20,490
one time for my Thank You Phoenix to to

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01:49:25,070 --> 01:49:22,980
Colorado and it took forever because

2428
01:49:26,510 --> 01:49:25,080
everything was like 10 mile 10 miles an

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01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:26,520
hour you know it's all winding roads

2430
01:49:31,460 --> 01:49:28,650
through the mountains and you just you

2431
01:49:33,500 --> 01:49:31,470
just you know it you need you need to

2432
01:49:36,950 --> 01:49:33,510
stay awake and it's impossible and it

2433
01:49:38,270 --> 01:49:36,960
takes forever anyway Maria we're getting

2434
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:38,280
down to the wire here give us your

2435
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:40,290
information give us your website your

2436
01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:43,530
email address people can go to amazon to

2437
01:49:49,220 --> 01:49:46,170
buy your books give us all and go for it

2438
01:49:51,500 --> 01:49:49,230
go for it okay if you actually if you

2439
01:49:55,610 --> 01:49:51,510
put my name which is just maria d'andrea

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01:49:58,910 --> 01:49:55,620
and that's be ' capital A and D or e a

2441
01:50:01,340 --> 01:49:58,920
into google i'm on amazon kindle looked

2442
01:50:04,820 --> 01:50:01,350
i'm on youtube apparently i'm all over

2443
01:50:06,770 --> 01:50:04,830
the media and it also has my website for

2444
01:50:10,430 --> 01:50:06,780
the ministry but for readings and for

2445
01:50:12,140 --> 01:50:10,440
classes and for you know public speaking

2446
01:50:15,710 --> 01:50:12,150
and lectures basically for everything

2447
01:50:16,759 --> 01:50:15,720
else and the website is just maria dng

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01:50:23,609 --> 01:50:16,769
com

2449
01:50:25,649 --> 01:50:23,619
my phone number is 63 1559 1248 so if

2450
01:50:28,589 --> 01:50:25,659
anybody wants to call I'm more than

2451
01:50:34,169 --> 01:50:28,599
happy to talk to them and my email

2452
01:50:37,319 --> 01:50:34,179
address is md Andrea 100 @ gmail.com and

2453
01:50:40,769 --> 01:50:37,329
you promise to read your email yes I

2454
01:50:43,139 --> 01:50:40,779
tried very hard electronic things just

2455
01:50:44,909 --> 01:50:43,149
tend to blow up on me so sometimes it'll

2456
01:50:46,799 --> 01:50:44,919
be down for a couple of days but I try

2457
01:50:49,709 --> 01:50:46,809
the best way to get in touch with me

2458
01:50:54,509 --> 01:50:49,719
really is just to call me I do pics and

2459
01:50:56,389 --> 01:50:54,519
you can call and and Carla what do you

2460
01:50:59,159 --> 01:50:56,399
have on you a lot going on i have

2461
01:51:03,749 --> 01:50:59,169
tomorrow at balance at my salon a

2462
01:51:05,939 --> 01:51:03,759
gallery artists hub in jersey city i

2463
01:51:10,559 --> 01:51:05,949
have a comedy show it from five to

2464
01:51:14,459 --> 01:51:10,569
around seven and then on friday i have

2465
01:51:16,319 --> 01:51:14,469
an art opening from eight to 11 and then

2466
01:51:21,659 --> 01:51:16,329
on the fourteenth we're having a no

2467
01:51:24,719 --> 01:51:21,669
party boy way they and in between in

2468
01:51:27,839 --> 01:51:24,729
between all the partying you cut hair I

2469
01:51:30,269 --> 01:51:27,849
cut hair the whole time yeah that's that

2470
01:51:34,619 --> 01:51:30,279
that's that's amazing that's amazing an

2471
01:51:37,079 --> 01:51:34,629
angel how about you well on Monday our

2472
01:51:40,399 --> 01:51:37,089
future theater and then on Wednesday I

2473
01:51:43,109 --> 01:51:40,409
have skywatchers radio with our guest

2474
01:51:46,649 --> 01:51:43,119
Larry see candor who's gonna be on the

2475
01:51:49,589 --> 01:51:46,659
show great guy all right and it's a

2476
01:51:53,459 --> 01:51:49,599
great net network to listen to and the

2477
01:51:56,729 --> 01:51:53,469
future looks very bright for a PSN radio

2478
01:52:00,119 --> 01:51:56,739
and again this is tim beckley and Carly

2479
01:52:04,739 --> 01:52:00,129
Anderson and the jackal on unraveling

2480
01:52:07,829 --> 01:52:04,749
the secrets and we unless an asteroid

2481
01:52:10,349 --> 01:52:07,839
hits the earth we will be back here same

2482
01:52:15,059 --> 01:52:10,359
time next week and and don't forget to

2483
01:52:16,969 --> 01:52:15,069
look for the archived shows on PSN radio

2484
01:52:19,709 --> 01:52:16,979
network they're up in the climb on

2485
01:52:23,039 --> 01:52:19,719
unraveling the secrets ton unraveling

2486
01:52:25,169 --> 01:52:23,049
the secrets and are going to eat go to

2487
01:52:28,979 --> 01:52:25,179
youtube as well because i think i have

2488
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:28,989
under mr. UFOs secret files we now have

2489
01:52:33,300 --> 01:52:30,130
about 55

2490
01:52:36,390 --> 01:52:33,310
I audios and and and video one of these

2491
01:52:39,960 --> 01:52:36,400
annoying to perfect that's her story yes

2492
01:52:44,100 --> 01:52:39,970
remotely in fact we just edit one of

2493
01:52:46,530 --> 01:52:44,110
Joshua P worn in a haunted house he did

2494
01:52:52,050 --> 01:52:46,540
this side milk yeah he did this 35

2495
01:52:53,790 --> 01:52:52,060
millimeter movie documentary and of

2496
01:52:56,130 --> 01:52:53,800
course video sales are like you know

2497
01:52:58,350 --> 01:52:56,140
they're non-existent anymore so let's

2498
01:53:00,030 --> 01:52:58,360
just share it with everybody in fact

2499
01:53:01,890 --> 01:53:00,040
even my horror movies are up there under

2500
01:53:04,620 --> 01:53:01,900
mr. creepo or tim buckley or something

2501
01:53:07,410 --> 01:53:04,630
that you'll find that skin evening

2502
01:53:09,900 --> 01:53:07,420
jungle vampires and blood sucking

2503
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:09,910
vampire freaks and Sandy Hook lingerie

2504
01:53:15,420 --> 01:53:12,850
party massacre and this is tim beckley

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01:53:19,170 --> 01:53:15,430
saying over and out and look up and